New linear-phase EQ - SplineEQ

[A_SN]

Does the freeware version save settings in host projects? If not, seems it's more of a demo version.

Yes it does. The only limitation concerning presets is with SplineEQ's own preset loading/saving system, but there are no other limitations, and you can even save presets in .fxp if your host lets you do that.

I'm not sure what Synthmakerish means. What does it mean?

Take a look at certain early graphical EQs made with SynthMaker. These EQs used a similar system to widen the Q, drag and drop, etc... this is what reminds me of it even up until this day, even though it's not "limited" to SE/SM anymore.

I still find the GUI a bit large compared to the tagging, but then again, I'm on a 1024x600 EeePC and not my 1680x1050 dual head rig.

Sorry but I still have no idea what that means, you're gonna have to name the names of plugins. Is this about the visualisation area with the spline controls? And I don't understand what you mean by widen the Q, there's nothing like a Q in SplineEQ.

Ah yes it's gonna seem a bit cramped on a 1024x600 screen since the visualisation area itself is 512x512 . I made sure it would fit well on a 1024x768 (I didn't think anyone would use anything smaller to make music) while keeping in mind that most people have much larger screens. And when it comes to having a graph with lots of controls on it you want it to be about as large as it can reasonably be.

EDIT: In case you're wondering if I made this plugin in Synthmaker, then no. I made it using the WDL/IPlug framework, but even then I don't use their graphics routines, I use the window's framebuffer with my own drawing code for everything. The knobs were made in 3DS Max, the rest of the interface in Photoshop, and for the visualisation I created fast anti-aliased line and circle drawing algorithms made from Gaussian and error functions (all look-up tabled and using a modified Bresenham routine for speed in the case of lines) just for that plugin.

[Syrou]

It's a great piece of software. Runs really smooth for me and in all my productions. Looking forward for the future of this plugin

[Dunc]

Thought I'd pop this topic near the top again by saying this seems to use next to nothing on my system ( a lot less than some more well known offerings).

I really like the visualisation which helps me to see the reduction/increase being made. I might be a bit strange in that regard though...

I'm using the free version for the time being, but I'm looking to get the full blown version in the future (hopefully in January/February).


Have a good festive break A_SN

[A_SN]

About that, does anyone have anything for me? I'll throw in a NFR license!

Which reminds me, I need to make a video showing how it works, but I need material to equalise, and I need to know how to equalise it (I don't make music myself so I'm not used to using an equalizer for the aesthetic embetterment of sound), is there anyone who'd like to volunteer some material for me to use?

What do you prefer more exactly?
Some loops, song sections perhaps?

Well, I'm not dead set on anything specific but I guess that loops of some instrument(s) would be best since single instruments are better suited to showing off the huge gain range, whereas more complex mixes need to be handled with more subtlety (and be changed by only a few dB). And something that loops well would be convenient since I could run it for as long as needed but also because it compares with itself (as in first you hear the unmodified loop then you hear how it changes). As for what it actually should be I think it should be whatever you think shows well what SplineEQ can do. I'm a bit out of my depth for that, I don't even normally use any EQs.

Thanks .

[A_SN]

Thought I'd pop this topic near the top again by saying this seems to use next to nothing on my system ( a lot less than some more well known offerings).

I really like the visualisation which helps me to see the reduction/increase being made. I might be a bit strange in that regard though...

I'm using the free version for the time being, but I'm looking to get the full blown version in the future (hopefully in January/February).


Have a good festive break A_SN

Ah yes, I made sure that CPU-wise my plugin is as efficient or more efficient than other linear-phase equalizers. I think that due to the fact that we use fast convolution we're close to having it done as efficiently as possible, I don't think it could be done much more efficiently than that.

And if you bought it now you'd be the 3rd person to have bought it! Yes, I've only sold two so far, it didn't really go as I had planned... like there's something I must have not done right. Sellings things isn't my forte, I'm more a Woz than a Jobs .

[Dunc]

Perhaps the visualisation is putting those off whom are more used to a pre/post frequency analyser plot of some sort.
Your refreshing take on the visual output makes sense to me, but like I said a couple of post's ago, I'm probably a bit strange...


Perhaps you should open a thread on your Photosounder forum (afterall, it's another product from Photosounder dot com) to generate more interest in this...it would also show that you are still around as well (no post in that forum since mid November).

As for an example of music to EQ, alas I am unable to provide on that one. I can barely listen to my own music output, nevermind subjecting others to it.

Anyway, have a good one.

[gpunk]

Crowded market
Yours does offer something unique in the way it works but not particularly in the way it sounds (No disrespect meant)
There are cheaper linear phase EQs on the market and as such that may be why sales are not great (Christmas being round the corner, wouldn't help either)

[A_SN]

Crowded market
Yours does offer something unique in the way it works but not particularly in the way it sounds (No disrespect meant)
There are cheaper linear phase EQs on the market and as such that may be why sales are not great (Christmas being round the corner, wouldn't help either)

Indeed, it is a pretty vanilla linear phase EQ in the way it processes the sound, although the way the filter is designed is pretty different.

However I looked long and hard and I couldn't find a single linear phase EQ for less than $89, unless they were free. Can you give any names for ones below $89? I really didn't think there were any.

I thought maybe also people are just content with the free version (you guys should know)? I have a pretty terrible downloads/buys ratio compared to Photosounder, like, about an order of magnitude worse.

[Johnny!]

I'd say that most people are pretty happy with EQs they got with their DAWs + no matter what you say it's just another EQ with a bit different GUI (it doesn't matter what's under the hood as imo differences in sound in all EQs written by serious developers are marginal unless theyre designed to colour the sound somehow). Seems like the market is quite filled up with so many EQs available that yet another one is not really exciting anymore (same with compressors and probably a few more fx types)

[3ee]

Mid-side support would also be a big up!
...and an alternative view/working space ...rectangle instead of square.

[A_SN]

I'd say that most people are pretty happy with EQs they got with their DAWs + no matter what you say it's just another EQ with a bit different GUI (it doesn't matter what's under the hood as imo differences in sound in all EQs written by serious developers are marginal unless theyre designed to colour the sound somehow). Seems like the market is quite filled up with so many EQs available that yet another one is not really exciting anymore (same with compressors and probably a few more fx types)

OK but I thought I had an edge because mine is of the linear phase type (does any DAW come with a linear phase EQ? I guess the real question is how many people really care for a linear phase EQ...) and much cheaper than the other ones like that. I can understand how it's mundane and not really exciting anymore. I guess only what is novel is exciting?

Mid-side support would also be a big up!
...and an alternative view/working space ...rectangle instead of square.

Well, I was considering going on working on it and adding lots of features (like M/S support and who knows what else) to make a much fancier version of SplineEQ, but it seems that the consensus is that I'd have more success doing something more original. Just wondering though, how should I best implement the M/S thing, by having a mid curve and a side curve, separate?

It seems I'd be better off going on with my original plan: at first I was going to make an original dynamics processor kind of effect codenamed EQEnv that would process the dynamics (the envelope/volume of the sound) based on an EQ, but without EQing anything, so that you could emphasise a sound in a different frequency range (for example a kick drum vs a snare drum) without changing anything in frequency, only in volume. Does that sound exciting (it's so hard to know what will interest you guys sometimes, I just have no idea)? Anyway I figured while working on it that since part of it is an EQ I might as well release a simple EQ plugin. I thought it might have a broad appeal...

Also, why rectangle instead of square? What's wrong with the 512x512 square? Too tall? Too narrow? Both?

[3ee]

Well, I was considering going on working on it and adding lots of features (like M/S support and who knows what else) to make a much fancier version of SplineEQ, but it seems that the consensus is that I'd have more success doing something more original. Just wondering though, how should I best implement the M/S thing, by having a mid curve and a side curve, separate?

Not separate, maybe just a switch for individual bands (Stereo-default, L, R, Mid, Side)

Also, why rectangle instead of square? What's wrong with the 512x512 square? Too tall? Too narrow? Both?

I for one, am not comfortable with anything else other than rectangle and I assume most people are used to rectangle looking eqs also.

As it is, it feels too tall.

Here's a more minimalistic look... too many parameters at once will distract the user... some of the options can be tucked into a menu or a "B" side or something. For example the visualization settings.

http://www.box.com/s/c1mjgkp60v8jtybutog9

How's that? Excuse the poor quality mockup pls!

[gpunk]

However I looked long and hard and I couldn't find a single linear phase EQ for less than $89, unless they were free. Can you give any names for ones below $89? I really didn't think there were any.

DDMF $29
And truth be told DDMF have something of a cult following right now (Myself included) not only because of the prices but because of the good support and great features.
I am not saying DDMF is better in any way than yours at all, just answering the question

[Integratron]

I've been focusing on EQs lately and there seems to be a ton of useless, generic EQs and a handful of EQs as slick as SplineEQ. I really like it and I think you just need to give it some time and clever marketing. You should submit a 6-band version to Computer Music magazine for some serious exposure... all to gain and nothing to loose IMHO.

I have the same problem with my music. Most peops that hear it like it but it seems such a chore to market intellectual product!

[Integratron]

I just noticed that SplineEQ is not recognized by the latest version of Acid Sound Forge Audio Studio, version 10.0

It did run fine in Ableton Live Intro 8.2.7

I would most likely purchase this EQ if it could run with Sonys' Sound Forge.