hmm, I personally don't care much for it on Noisemaker.Sendy wrote:Also, an even better 6db resonant filter is to be found in TAL-Noisemaker. That one can be overdriven
Steinberg Retrologue
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- KVRAF
- 20656 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
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- KVRAF
- 3374 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
I think it's more to do with taste rather than actually being dated, Retrologue as the name suggests is going for a vintage kind of vibe.Uncle E wrote:I took that comment to mean that Retrologue doesn't compare to softsynths being released today, such as DIVA and ImpOSCar 2. I actually agree with that (edit - based only on the examples I've heard here, I don't personally have Retrologue yet.).mgpqa1 wrote:So... does this mean that a perfect emulation of a Minimoog would sound about 40 years too late?
And as for Imposcar 2 it sounds much the same as the many years old Imposcar 1 - just comparing the raw oscillators.
Orion Platinum, Muzys 2
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- KVRAF
- 20656 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Now that I have it myself, I'm actually liking it more than I thought I would.v1o wrote:I think it's more to do with taste rather than actually being dated, Retrologue as the name suggests is going for a vintage kind of vibe.
It's the new unison options that has me loving it.And as for Imposcar 2 it sounds much the same as the many years old Imposcar 1 - just comparing the raw oscillators.
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- KVRAF
- 3810 posts since 20 Apr, 2005
So I upgraded to cubase 6.5 today.
My first impressions of Retrologue are really very good. It sounds really great. Sweet filters, very very well laid out GUI, nice solid sound to this.
Patch management lacking (but then it does for almost everything compared to Native Instruments).
For an included synth - top marks!! When you consider all the inbuilt midi tools such as arpeggiators, chord machines etc in cubase it becomes a monster synth within cubase.
Sure, it's not Diva, but I bet it runs a ton of instances.
fwiw, I think it compares very well to impsocar that was mentioned.
My first impressions of Retrologue are really very good. It sounds really great. Sweet filters, very very well laid out GUI, nice solid sound to this.
Patch management lacking (but then it does for almost everything compared to Native Instruments).
For an included synth - top marks!! When you consider all the inbuilt midi tools such as arpeggiators, chord machines etc in cubase it becomes a monster synth within cubase.
Sure, it's not Diva, but I bet it runs a ton of instances.
fwiw, I think it compares very well to impsocar that was mentioned.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 5912 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany
..and it's VST3. Afaik the only VA synth with VST3 Note Expression_leras wrote:So I upgraded to cubase 6.5 today.
My first impressions of Retrologue are really very good. It sounds really great. Sweet filters, very very well laid out GUI, nice solid sound to this.
Patch management lacking (but then it does for almost everything compared to Native Instruments).
For an included synth - top marks!! When you consider all the inbuilt midi tools such as arpeggiators, chord machines etc in cubase it becomes a monster synth within cubase.
Sure, it's not Diva, but I bet it runs a ton of instances.
fwiw, I think it compares very well to impsocar that was mentioned.
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- KVRist
- 43 posts since 30 May, 2012
Note expressions and Retrologue is why I have fun with it! The sound is good and comparable to what I do in Massive, Sylenth1 or Dune, but then making use of the expressions is nice.
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- KVRist
- 156 posts since 27 Jul, 2008
+1!illumin wrote:Note expressions and Retrologue is why I have fun with it! The sound is good and comparable to what I do in Massive, Sylenth1 or Dune, but then making use of the expressions is nice.
I never really got into Note Expression before Retrologue. TBH I didn't think it was for guys like me producing EDM (and it didn't help that my only option to use N.E. was with HALion Sonic SE with its extremely limited parameters). But now that I've discovered some of the creative possibilities being able to automate ANY parameter on a synth on a per note basis I'm blown away!
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- KVRAF
- 1919 posts since 23 Sep, 2005
Yup, Retrologue Sounds amazing !
Warm, Lush, Fat, Very Analog like. It can produce quite a range of great sounds, (leads, basses, pads, effects, ...etc.)
Actually, I think if one has Zebra 2, Diva, Retrologue, and possibly something like NI FM8 for FM-Synthesis, plus Cubase 6.5 includes Padshop which offers Granular Synthesis. You will have an amazingly powerful arsenal of first-Class VST-Synths, and the added benefit of (VST3 Note Expression) offered by Retrologue, and Padshop !
Cheers,
Muziksculp
Warm, Lush, Fat, Very Analog like. It can produce quite a range of great sounds, (leads, basses, pads, effects, ...etc.)
Actually, I think if one has Zebra 2, Diva, Retrologue, and possibly something like NI FM8 for FM-Synthesis, plus Cubase 6.5 includes Padshop which offers Granular Synthesis. You will have an amazingly powerful arsenal of first-Class VST-Synths, and the added benefit of (VST3 Note Expression) offered by Retrologue, and Padshop !
Cheers,
Muziksculp
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- KVRist
- 95 posts since 15 Aug, 2006
Just FYI retrologue runs as a stand alone VST.
And I'm actually quite interested in it and I think they sound a good bit different between retrologue and halion 4.
And I'm actually quite interested in it and I think they sound a good bit different between retrologue and halion 4.
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- KVRAF
- 6208 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
I do understand what you mean here, I am a longlime Cubase user, and I can say Retrologue (and Padshop for that matter) are the only 2 synths of their's I've been even tempted to use.MFXxx wrote:My first vibe with the SB vst instruments is that they sound about 5 years too late...
Retrologue is good, but compared to say - Rob Papen's Predator... I just feel a bit like - 'too little too late'...
That said, Retrologue does have a sound, and I think I'm starting to like it. It's not quite "Phat, Phunky and Phresh" (egads, yes, they did actually use that phrase in their marketing), or maybe it is... thus proving the out-dated theory here. I mean "ph" in exchange for an "f", pretty retro, but not in a vintage synth way, more like an MC Hammer way...
Xenos's techno patches are nice too, btw, would be nice to find some more commercial patches for it, if anyone knows of any?
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRAF
- 6208 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
Yeah, if anyone knows how to find the VST2 dlls, so I can use in Live, please let me know, they haven't installed on my machine for some unfortunate reason, only the VST3 files...MetroSonus wrote:Just FYI retrologue runs as a stand alone VST.
And I'm actually quite interested in it and I think they sound a good bit different between retrologue and halion 4.
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRAF
- 19774 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
The Vst2 files installed into one of my default Vst folders. I didn't get a chance to select which one (I have 4). It's just named Retrologue.dll so maybe do a search? 
For the record I'm loving the sound of Retrologue. It has character and quality......
For the record I'm loving the sound of Retrologue. It has character and quality......
None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free. Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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- KVRAF
- 20656 posts since 22 Nov, 2000 from Southern California
Well, for less than 1/3 the price of Predator, somebody is getting Retrologue, Padshop, and the Cubase upgrades in 6.5.sqigls wrote:Retrologue is good, but compared to say - Rob Papen's Predator... I just feel a bit like - 'too little too late'...
Personally, I feel the "too little too late" assessment holds more weight when referenced against DIVA or Oxium. Maybe Steinberg can release an aftermarket Retologue Pro (like they did with Padshop Pro) and step it up to that level.
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- KVRAF
- 6208 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
yes, sure, I'll definitely TRY to be more circumspect with my virtual based analogies in future 
I found the 2 64bit vst2 files also, after repairing Cubase, they were by default place into my 32bit plugins folder. Silly me didn't THINK to check there...
I found the 2 64bit vst2 files also, after repairing Cubase, they were by default place into my 32bit plugins folder. Silly me didn't THINK to check there...
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRist
- 49 posts since 13 Apr, 2011
Steinberg is elated to release free trial versions for its two synths, Padshop Pro and Retrologue. Both trials come with the same functionality as the full versions and can be used for 30 days.
Padshop Pro is the next step in the evolution of Steinberg's acclaimed granular synthesizer Padshop and offers exciting new features for experimental sound design. The pro version comes with a drag and drop sample import function, a 3-band parametric EQ, a high-quality algorithmic reverb and 50 new presets.
Retrologue is an exceptional virtual analog synth that spices up your production with first-class analog purity. Highlights of Retrologue include two cutting multi-oscillators, an earth-shattering sub- and noise-oscillator, twelve quality filter types and a high-class FX section.
Both synths feature full VST and AU support and come with a variety of production-ready presets that will expand your creativity.
Download here:
http://bit.ly/P2rGgi
USB eLicenser not required.
Padshop Pro is the next step in the evolution of Steinberg's acclaimed granular synthesizer Padshop and offers exciting new features for experimental sound design. The pro version comes with a drag and drop sample import function, a 3-band parametric EQ, a high-quality algorithmic reverb and 50 new presets.
Retrologue is an exceptional virtual analog synth that spices up your production with first-class analog purity. Highlights of Retrologue include two cutting multi-oscillators, an earth-shattering sub- and noise-oscillator, twelve quality filter types and a high-class FX section.
Both synths feature full VST and AU support and come with a variety of production-ready presets that will expand your creativity.
Download here:
http://bit.ly/P2rGgi
USB eLicenser not required.