Any love for POD HD500?

[Uncle E]

But bean does not provide a pad switch - which means one never knows how hb's are handled.

Maybe this could help?

http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/shure-a1 ... 10104.html

[Dean Aka Nekro]

But bean does not provide a pad switch - which means one never knows how hb's are handled.

Maybe this could help?

http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/shure-a1 ... 10104.html

You know I just was thinking about how useful a little box (pedal) would be with something like that Shure switchable level attenuator along with that Radial varialable impedance load correction device aka dragster:

http://www.tonebone.com/tb-dragster.htm

What a box of usefulness that would be, I really like the way AVID's RackEleven automatically changes the impedance for the different amp models...But was thinking it would be even better if it were fully user controlable.

What do think hey? I mean using impedance to advantage with microphones and pre-amps yeilds great results sometimes so maybe just maybe it could be alot of use to use (abuse) the same idea with DSP guitar devices and of course amps/pedals too

May build or buy and have a tinker

[lfm]

But bean does not provide a pad switch - which means one never knows how hb's are handled.

Maybe this could help?

http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/shure-a1 ... 10104.html

Thanks.

Passive pickups usually want 500-1000 kohm as imput impedance to sound right. Microphones is a different story.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/6 ... uator.html

You can always turn down volume on guitar - but with a penalty. I never succeded in getting the same tone with volume knob at 5 as on 10. The resistor that is created in series with signal works together with capacitance in cord to make a LP-filter. I managed to get this much better with a bleed capacitor+resistor in guitar but not the same as with knob on 10.

My overall feel is that this gear is not intended for guitar as much as they claim that - and I don't want equipment controlling me.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

See above lfm, I know its more money to spend or another DIY project (If you are a DIY guy) but it could be sweet/problems solved?

All the best chaps

Dean

Edit: I presume that Eric is meaning along with whatever DI box you may have and instead of using the HiZ input DI your guitar into the POD?

[lfm]

You know I just was thinking about how useful a little box (pedal) would be with something like that Shure switchable level attenuator along with that Radial varialable impedance load correction device aka dragster:

http://www.tonebone.com/tb-dragster.htm

What a box of usefulness that would be, I really like the way AVID's RackEleven automatically changes the impedance for the different amp models...But was thinking it would be even better if it were fully user controlable.

What do think hey? I mean using impedance to advantage with microphones and pre-amps yeilds great results sometimes so maybe just maybe it could be alot of use to use (abuse) the same idea with DSP guitar devices and of course amps/pedals too

May build or buy and have a tinker

It is really scary if wireless systems for guitar is not doing this right from start.

When fixing a lot with bleeding-stuff on guitar I was into building one impedance converter, driven by a small 9V battery. Pretty much like this dragster thingy. Then cord after that box does not affect signal that much anymore - it could be 10m or more - and use volume knob on guitar as you like wihtout penalty.

Buffered stompboxen like Boss do this by default. So cord length until first stompbox affect signal, then not anymore. Bad thing is that all Boss pedals affect signal even when effect is not active - not true bypass.

[lfm]

Edit: I presume that Eric is meaning along with whatever DI box you may have and instead of using the HiZ input DI your guitar into the POD?

That's pretty cool idea actually. I got this rackmount Behringer DI800P to split bass and guitar into direct and through amp for record.

And it actually has -30dB pad as well. It might be too much but worth testing. Most likely the DI output is lower than original signal from pickups.

You guys are geniouses.

[Dean Aka Nekro]

Funny thing is line 6's own guitar wireless systems sounded really damned good to me the two which I have tried. Regarding the buffered vs true bypass thing, I go straight into a Boss NS-2 and after that it does not matter to me, As I do not switch my boost/overdrive off which is in the NS-2's loop and effects I rarely use, An old Boss DD-3 or DD-5 at most to be honest.
If I want a clean sound then it a simple AB/Y box with guitar straight to seperate amplifier to do cleans. Also using active pickups my 'tone' already has been sucked away/steralized according to the likes of Robert Keeley and co. So

Maybe I would notice if I were doing subtle stuff with vintage gear that is more delicate to what it needs to be fed...but I am not so I pay no attention aslong as Im getting the sounds I am used to

[blueman]

I presume that Eric is meaning along with whatever DI box you may have and instead of using the HiZ input DI your guitar into the POD?

Fwiw, the POD HD500 (with current firmware) does model different levels of impedence. No clue how they pulled it off but it does work and it's a great feature indeed

Variable Input Impedance - This feature affects tone and feel because the guitar's pickups are being "loaded" as they would be by an effect pedal or a tube amplifier.  There are eight selectable options which can change the analog circuitry affecting the impedance of the Guitar Input.  The options include seven discrete resistor values: 22k, 32k, 70k, 90k, 230k, 1M, 3.5M.  There is also an Auto setting.  When set to Auto the input impedance can automatically change depending on which amp or effect model is first in the signal chain of the current preset. Impedance settings are saved as part of each preset's input selection

[lfm]

Fwiw, the POD HD500 (with current firmware) does model different levels of impedence. No clue how they pulled it off but it does work and it's a great feature indeed

What would be good info is how the pad switch i implemented?

Since it's supposed to attenuate signal not to get overs it might be done as a simple voltage divider before any circuit.

I hope they have first stage with plenty headroom and do that after first stage to preserve input impedance.

All guitargear should really have at least 500k->1Mohm input impedance not to load passive pickups too much. To my biggest surprice not all DI-boxes had this - far from all were suited for guitar. I looked through the entire Behringer line of DI-boxes. Out of 7-8 models, 2 were good for guitar as I remember it.

[Uncle E]

There's this:

http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/radial-d ... -6621.html

[zerocrossing]

Here's another that's worth a watch and listen for those who are interested...

I'm sorry, but that video, and all the POD HD 500 videos or demos I've been able to find scream "amp modeler." Good, but missing that special something.

However, the combo of the HD500 and a DT25 or 50 does seem to add that much needed magic back in.

I've been over and over it... I'm so torn. Line6 "Dream Rig" or Kemper?

[Dean Aka Nekro]

I presume that Eric is meaning along with whatever DI box you may have and instead of using the HiZ input DI your guitar into the POD?

Fwiw, the POD HD500 (with current firmware) does model different levels of impedence. No clue how they pulled it off but it does work and it's a great feature indeed

Variable Input Impedance - This feature affects tone and feel because the guitar's pickups are being "loaded" as they would be by an effect pedal or a tube amplifier.  There are eight selectable options which can change the analog circuitry affecting the impedance of the Guitar Input.  The options include seven discrete resistor values: 22k, 32k, 70k, 90k, 230k, 1M, 3.5M.  There is also an Auto setting.  When set to Auto the input impedance can automatically change depending on which amp or effect model is first in the signal chain of the current preset. Impedance settings are saved as part of each preset's input selection

Thanks blueman for the information, Good to know that they are keeping on top of little details which do add up to making it as 'HD' as realistically as is reasonable and noted as a major plus for when I do eventually get proper chance to try one and evaluate whether to pull the trigger or not. Cheers

Dean

[blueman]

I'm sorry, but that video, and all the POD HD 500 videos or demos I've been able to find scream "amp modeler." Good, but missing that special something.

However, the combo of the HD500 and a DT25 or 50 does seem to add that much needed magic back in.

That's a fair point and I actually agree. For software, AmpliTube 3 beats it. For me, the appeal was combining the DT25 for the max benefit of both worlds. I couldn't be happier with this combination. I get true, tube amp tone with the magic of modeling technology and near-infinite options for effects. It is a quite complex rig though and that will turn off some ppl. This week, I finally broke through and found the right ways to dial it all in. Now, I'm loving all the possibilities.

I think the Kemper looks promising as well but...where can I try it out so I may return it if I'm unhappy That would worry me with am investment this big That said, I'm sure it does sound amazing and who knows, I may own one someday. It never ends right? The answer to which one is always...both!

[lfm]

There's this:

http://www.jrrshop.com/catalog/radial-d ... -6621.html

Thanks.

Some people really have issues with humbucker guitars:
http://line6.com/support/thread/76931

[Uncle E]

I think the Kemper looks promising as well but...where can I try it out so I may return it if I'm unhappy

We'll take it back. I can waive any restocking fees, as well.