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Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Tue May 15, 2012 4:03 pm

alvfaria wrote:FL Piano roll is the best because...

Left click - Draw a note
Right click - Delete a note
CTRL+Drag - Select stuff
SHIFT+Drag - Duplicate your crap
ALT+Scroll - Velocity adjust
ALT+ ◄ or ► - Fine positioning (move 1 thick)
SHIFT+ ▲ or ▼ - Semitone transpose
CTRL+ ▲ or ▼ - Octave transpose
And there's quantize, and flam, and strum, and chop...

FL Piano roll = less clicks!!! ☺

I think I can do all that in Reaper.

AstralExistence · Post by **AstralExistence** » Tue May 15, 2012 6:18 pm

Z3R0T0N1N wrote:Groups are brilliant,

where can i find information on these brilliant groups? it must be in the beta version.

liquid wind · Post by **liquid wind** » Tue May 15, 2012 7:58 pm

Teksonik wrote:
AstralExistence wrote: fl studio gets on my nerves because you cant get any real organization to your songs.

AstralExistence wrote: fl studio is a joy to use

He's saying that he wants FL to be just like Reaper, but he doesn't want to use Reaper

I think I've seen this person before

sjm · Post by **sjm** » Tue May 15, 2012 8:23 pm

Arglebargle wrote:
alvfaria wrote:FL Piano roll is the best because...

Left click - Draw a note
Right click - Delete a note
CTRL+Drag - Select stuff
SHIFT+Drag - Duplicate your crap
ALT+Scroll - Velocity adjust
ALT+ ◄ or ► - Fine positioning (move 1 thick)
SHIFT+ ▲ or ▼ - Semitone transpose
CTRL+ ▲ or ▼ - Octave transpose
And there's quantize, and flam, and strum, and chop...

FL Piano roll = less clicks!!! ☺
I think I can do all that in Reaper.

You should just try it out (there's a fully functional demo). While Reaper is super-configurable, FL's piano roll is a joy to use without spending hours delving into menus and setting everything up. You can start making music straight away. I found Reaper's default piano roll setup to be a PITA and couldn't be bothered investing that much time into setting it up when FL works OOTB. Someone had posted that they'd basically set Reaper up to work exactly like FL, but I wish they'd also posted the config to save everyone else the hassle of doing it all over again.

Reaper is better for other things, in particular audio in FL is still very much an afterthought with loads of additional bits tagged on as workarounds instead of just implementing it properly. The piano roll however is excellent and the reason I bought FL and have not bought Reaper.

EDIT: BTW if all you're doing in the piano roll is making minor edits to live MIDI recordings you might not notice the benefits; but if you are programming parts from zero or making massive changes to parts it really comes into its own.

S-N-S · Post by **S-N-S** » Tue May 15, 2012 9:12 pm

Fl studio is a perfect match for studio one pro,ive been writting all my latest Drum N Bass in FL and mixing and mastering in studio one pro

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Tue May 15, 2012 9:18 pm

My mom can make very fine tea...

btw pretty decent mix for a toy:

deathwish · Post by **deathwish** » Tue May 15, 2012 9:48 pm

Arglebargle wrote:
alvfaria wrote:FL Piano roll is the best because...

Left click - Draw a note
Right click - Delete a note
CTRL+Drag - Select stuff
SHIFT+Drag - Duplicate your crap
ALT+Scroll - Velocity adjust
ALT+ ◄ or ► - Fine positioning (move 1 thick)
SHIFT+ ▲ or ▼ - Semitone transpose
CTRL+ ▲ or ▼ - Octave transpose
And there's quantize, and flam, and strum, and chop...

FL Piano roll = less clicks!!! ☺
I think I can do all that in Reaper.

I think reaper can do better.

bailees7irish · Post by **bailees7irish** » Tue May 15, 2012 11:25 pm

kmonkey wrote: btw pretty decent mix for a toy:

Crackbaby · Post by **Crackbaby** » Wed May 16, 2012 5:25 am

Can you configure reaper to draw a note with a single left click? No doubleclick?

Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Wed May 16, 2012 1:17 pm

Crackbaby wrote:Can you configure reaper to draw a note with a single left click? No doubleclick?

Yes.

Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Wed May 16, 2012 1:25 pm

the only thing on that list off the top of my head that Reaper can't do is flam and strum. but the piano roll is surprisingly configurable.

now the one area where Reaper loses to pretty much every other DAW is no track-based MIDI editing.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed May 16, 2012 4:11 pm

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kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Wed May 16, 2012 5:44 pm

Just a MIDI is a bit oversimplified imho. And i was responding to people which are claiming that for serious mixing it is a toy. Anyway i do get the part about missing corssfades etc.etc. but you can do all that with Edison. Yes it will take absurd amount of time on a project scale but it is doable. I can only symphatize with people which demand such features which are missing in FL Studio. Maybe some day it will have these tools we never know.

dune_rave · Post by **dune_rave** » Wed May 16, 2012 6:16 pm

You know what?
FLStudio is also a vst plugin, and you can use the plugin in Reaper, so you have both feature set!

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed May 16, 2012 7:19 pm

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i wish fl studio was a true multitrack daw.