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Tricky-Loops wrote:
However, nevertheless they had more "style" than "your" UK contribution by Engelbert Humperdinck... :wink:
I won't have that. Engelbert's sideburns are the epitome of style :cry:

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Tricky-Loops wrote:You really think the whole EDM scene in Sweden is years behind the rest of Europe? If I listen to things like Swedish House Mafia or Tim Bergling (Avicii), I think it's at least partly up to date. There are a lot of skilled Swedish DJ's out there... :wink:
There are exceptions of course. Regarding the Swedish house mafia I find their stuff a bit dated too. But all in all Sweden is not much of a clubbing nation compared to other European nations. It's all hard rock and bling bling hip hop for the most part.

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Hate to love ESC, the world's biggest amateur competition, but as always there are some gems. My fav was Bulgaria that didn't even make the final, although the staging was slightly bizarre.. :?

Also thought Montenegro: Rambo Amadeus - Euro Neuro was quite brilliant in the prevideo, although flopped completely live on the day.


The winner was also a great song performed brilliantly and only a genius can get away with over the top moves like that.

Seems it was a big year for ballads which normally only sees the best one make top 5 and the rest nowhere, now there were several up there. I put it down to the endless singing competitions like Idol, The Voice etc that runs in every country and where everyone harps on about "telling the story".

Glitzy, dancy, faky seems to be completely out. Natural and minimalistic is the thing.

But did anyone get how Turkey could even get out of the semi, let alone do so well? For me it was like a Borat skit that was to be revealed after the show, but it was actually meant seriously? The guy even looked like Borat's brother and the lyrics sounded straight out of a Borat movie, haha.

But got to hand it to Mr. Eurovision Seljko Joksimovic. Writing and singing his songs to 2nd in 2004 with the amazing "Lane Moje" and 3rd now for Serbia. (+ a 2nd writing for Bosnia in 2006 with the also great "Lejla"). Brillant guy.

The Russian oldies in front of what looked like a cremation oven singing party for everybody was slightly macabre with the European austerity measures going on, but Russia usually know their stuff and it all worked, 2nd - wow..

Norway almost doing yet another zero pointer again, lol. Don't know why though as it wasn't half bad.

Worst songs according to the points from the semis were done by the 'rappers' from Austria and the hair metal guy from Slovakia. Seems there's no tolerance for American wannabe guys in Eurovision.. :hihi:
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V'ger wrote:The Russian oldies in front of what looked like a cremation oven was slightly macabre, but Russia usually know their stuff and it all worked, 2nd - wow..
I think this was a stone oven for baking bread...it's common in Russia, and every grandma has at least one stone oven in her garden. They don't want to get bored and so they're baking bread and cakes... :wink:

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ttoz wrote:the problem with the turkey guy is that he thinks he can sing. for real. stuff like that is scary,

I swear i said borat the minute it started and my friend cracked up.

It sounded like he was a toddler with a vibrator stuck in his throat.

It was hilariously bad, worse than the greek, if that's possible.
You should respect that the singing in Turkey is different from the Western styled vocals.

But it would have been better if he had sung in Turkish, because the English vocals didn't fit to the Turkish background music.

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V'ger wrote:
The winner was also a great song performed brilliantly and only a genius can get away with over the top moves like that.
This song has some humor and originality, but for the Eurovision Song Contest they want to have superficial pop songs, not hip hop stuff... :(

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Yes I know the oven was for baking bread, I meant with the double meaning. They could just have had a small oven, not a body sized one. To me it was slightly political with the extreme class gap and lowered life expectancy in Russia, but maybe I'm off the mark.

But good someone else saw beside me saw the Turkey/Borat thing, but obviously not many did.

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V'ger wrote:Yes I know the oven was for baking bread, I meant with the double meaning. They could just have had a small oven, not a body sized one. To me it was slightly political with the extreme class gap and lowered life expectancy in Russia, but maybe I'm off the mark.

But good someone else saw beside me saw the Turkey/Borat thing, but obviously not many did.
The only message I've got was that Russian grandmas are healthy and are dancing till they're 120 years old... :lol:

As German I don't want to see cremation ovens any more, do you understand? :shock: :cry:

Regarding to Turkey, they always had difficult circumstances, as the music of Turkey is totally different than the music of the rest of Europe... I love the Turkish music, but a Turkish song with English vocals doesn't match together...

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I like the winner song. Maybe it is a little bit generic, but overall it is very well designed. There were very few such consistent, well balanced songs in terms of melody, arrangement, performance in contest. It allows to concentrate attention on performance and remember the song.

Most other songs are of two types:

1. Extremely "original" ones: ten tempo changes, twenty different styles combined, hook in each phrase of verse, refrain, bridge and lead. Circus on stage on top of this. Producers of such songs naively think, that such amount of elements put together in 3min song will make it memorable. But such songs are forgotten immediately after the last note.

2. Songs - "voice presentations". Sometimes upbeat, but more often ballad style songs written just for one purpose - demonstrate how good voice singer has, how loud/high he/she can sing. Boring like business slide shows.

Among these two types of songs, which heavily rotate in contest every year, the Sweden one looks very good.

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Fact: 10 songs in the whole ECS competition was written by some Swedes. All went to the finals. That makes out more than 38% of the songs in the finals.
Opinion: The guys from Ireland was so horribly out of tune sometimes I couldn't watch.
Opinion: I liked Turkey's song.

There you have it. :-)

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jensa wrote:Fact: 10 songs in the whole ECS competition was written by some Swedes. All went to the finals. That makes out more than 38% of the songs in the finals.
You make that sound like a good thing. :hihi:

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Tricky-Loops wrote:What bothers me really is that they have known before the voting that Sweden would win!! How can it be?? Is it a fraud? :o
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jensa wrote:Fact: 10 songs in the whole ECS competition was written by some Swedes.
Minor issue, but I heard eleven - haven't checked...

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