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Aiynzahev · Post by **Aiynzahev** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:54 pm

What do you guys think of the FLUX Epure Limiter? I will try it out soon.

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:21 am

kmonkey wrote:I think that Barricade is (and reelbus for tape subject) most underrated and underpriced yet one of the best limiters currently available.

IMHO anyone doing any kind of stuff and making demos or mastering - should have it! Simple as that!

its more than those two reelbus gets a lot of use by me but there actual bundle of mixing plugins are used all the time and I get great results the whole collection of em is underrated in my opinion.

also slate FGX sounds great but I dont think its a actual limiter meaning you need to put a limiter after it kind of like specter from sknote its for mastering but does not have the brick wall limiter part completely down

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 1:00 am

Aiynzahev wrote:What do you guys think of the FLUX Epure Limiter? I will try it out soon.

Do not work with/on dance/electronic based material but FWIW Epure Limiter I found rather plain and not good value for the money, Solera on the other hand although not a limiter and whilst talking about dynamics processors I really like/very nice for sure but again it is pricey (or was when I tried it out). YMMV alot though and it was awhile ago man

djanthonyw · Post by **djanthonyw** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:06 pm

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-co ... ost8101757

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 2:10 pm

THis originated from the ISP Limiter thread here on KVR (read: there is more detail than randomly thrown link in here).

Still, Barricade is a great limiter in itself.

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:39 pm

I did not know that elephant was a isp limiter. but have your tests gone against the new updated barricade. It seems to be pretty darn good

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:55 pm

Pretty much everything can be ISP if the attack is 0, pre-delay around 5ms with suitable oversampling.

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:18 pm

Compyfox wrote:Pretty much everything can be ISP if the attack is 0, pre-delay around 5ms with suitable oversampling.

interesting. sounds kinda cool but wont that mess with the sound of the limiter

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:25 pm

If the ISP limiting is an own stage, no.

Take a dive into FabFilter's YouTube channel. Dan Worral's tutorial for Pro-L is great on that behalf.

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:48 pm

Compyfox wrote:If the ISP limiting is an own stage, no.

Take a dive into FabFilter's YouTube channel. Dan Worral's tutorial for Pro-L is great on that behalf.

I will thanks. I like to use limiter 6 just for ISP limiting after I use my normal one. mainly because its not very prosses heavy but I will check it out thank

Brother Charles · Post by **Brother Charles** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:11 pm

+1 TB Barricade Rocks!

Incredibly transparent - "invisible" even. (Using moderate settings)

Klanghelm DC8C - Incredible compressor. Set it to "Smooth" and enable 2x or 4x OS and it can be breathtakingly clear & transparent. Don't be fooled though - using "Punch" or "Crush" modes will give you lots of character compression in the vibe of revered old-skool 1176, Fairchild, etc. . .

jam92189 · Post by **jam92189** » Sun Jul 29, 2012 8:59 pm

Brother Charles wrote:+1 TB Barricade Rocks!

Incredibly transparent - "invisible" even. (Using moderate settings)

Klanghelm DC8C - Incredible compressor. Set it to "Smooth" and enable 2x or 4x OS and it can be breathtakingly clear & transparent. Don't be fooled though - using "Punch" or "Crush" modes will give you lots of character compression in the vibe of revered old-skool 1176, Fairchild, etc. . .

I really gotta try Barricade soon, but +1 for DC8C amazing comp. also compyfox is right isp limiting should be its own part of the proses.

soniclegacy · Post by **soniclegacy** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 2:47 am

Mercado_Negro wrote:
MFXxx wrote:
Mercado_Negro wrote:There's a nice trick you can try, set the attack and release all the way down to the right and use it as a leveler, it just tightens things up in a very musical way without destroying the dynamics (good for pop/r&b vocals where you need to keep the emotions and dynamics of the performance). It's not a fast compressor so don't put it on percusive stuff BUT if you're planning a LA-2A->1176 trick then try it instead of a LA-2A, you may like it.
I like fgx for master buss so thanks for the tip on the settings, will give it a whirl.

Mercado what do recommend for fast comps in the virtual world on drums/percs for the quick snap on individual sounds rather than the drum buss (exc any poco/ead stuff please).
That's a tough question. I think I haven't found a good compressor for transient-rich stuff like snares, rims, tambourines, etc. All software compressors I've tried fall short when it comes to clamping trasients down, like hardware does, they all sound "clicky", so to speak. Now, since we're talking about software I'd say The Glue or Abbey Road RS124. This Abbey Road plug-in is slow, very slow, but it has a very particular sound that seems to work on transient-rich material. I love it on kick drums, congas and bongos (I never use it on drums or percussion busses). Since that compressor is very slow, I tend to use a limiter right after, something like ToneBoosters' Barricade without "auto saturation". In my opinion, this RS124 is one of the best for individual drums. It takes time to get used to it because it doesn't behave conventionally but once you've read the manual and learned how to use it properly, it does wonders. The Glue is also great but too clean/transparent sometimes. I use it when I need to maintain the drum sound I shaped (or on drums/perc busses).

By the way, even though it isn't my favorite type of compression, the CLA-76 is also good if you don't have barricade. 1dB or 2dB of GR after the RS124 may help.

Cheers

URS Strip Pro is awesome for this. Very fast attack times and tons of different flavors of compressors built in, not to mention the top notch EQ section.

http://www.ursplugins.com/ursStripPro.html

drakem · Post by **drakem** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:15 pm

@ Mercado
Great post. Thats how I feel, understand compression.
One thing which comes out throughout this topic is "clamping" the transients.
I'm on the other side of the table.
After reading some books featuring Mr. Pensado I came to the conclusion I'm not alone. I hate transient-death sounds.
For me it makes a drum punch, the vocal sing and the tambourine speak. I can't get enough of it. I wish we could mix at -30dBFS= 0 VU for headroom.
I would {almost} NEVER compress a snare, not with a fast attack. I might saturate it 4 times, limit it, parallel it, yes, but compress online???
Sounds should percolate like popcorn machine. I hate glue....

My compressors have mostly as long attack as it gets.

I might add attack to a drum, will never take it away.

ObsoleteAcc99 · Post by **ObsoleteAcc99** » Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:38 pm

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Got slate fg-x for a bargain. i won't use it for master lim BUT..read in.. also, barricade, etc