KVR Audio

kmonkey · Post by **kmonkey** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:25 pm

ghettosynth wrote:some guy with a berklee background, a true love for fusion, and a ponytail, is trying to convince the audience that if you want to produce all the latest styles, roland has got you covered, cue alesis SR-16 techno beat.

What a nonsense...

tehlord · Post by **tehlord** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:33 pm

FarleyCZ wrote:Btw back to that resynthesis question. I didin't mean ADSR, but starting point of sample's playback. If soundsource itself has slow attack, if there is a way for me to make it faster.

No idea, I've barely even touched it as a synth/mangler

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 7:50 pm

The truth? I've had a while now and it's intimidating. Not sure I can explain it

There are so many sounds and so many patches and so many things to explore I just don't know what to make of it. Never felt that way with trilian or rmx.

One thing, it can at times suffer from the "ludes to chipmonks" syndrome.......should have known being samples.......but live and learn.

On the plus side, it works well.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:24 pm

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:25 pm

dalor · Post by **dalor** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:31 pm

You DON'T need Omnisphere if: you spent 2+ years sampling every poop and create over 8000 inspiring patches.

You WANT Omnisphere if: you don't have 2 years.

kevvvvv · Post by **kevvvvv** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:52 pm

Spectrasonics have been great on the upgrades.

Excellent new features and sounds, mostly free.

Helps keep a plug alive

Sounds aside, I like Omni for this

Sopranos · Post by **Sopranos** » Sun Jun 17, 2012 11:17 pm

You cannot compare or pick between EW and Omnisphere... two totally different animals and for different applications. I have both (several titles from EW) and can share a few thoughts:

1. Spectrasonics is light years ahead in customer service and overall a way better company to buy products from than EW. A recent post on another forum revealed that EW doesn't even allow beta/demo providers to use their products in the composers own work for profit... simply to provide a demo for EW for free and the software is useless after that. Sad.

2. The EW is very predictable. In other words, I can already tell you what kind of music you will be making with it. On the other hand, with Omnisphere you will be making music you didn't even have in mind or think you were capable of. Not a good or bad thing - it just is what it is.

3. Both sound great.

The bottom line is you will want both (although I'm still not sure I would recommend EW for orchestral/strings or anything else for that matter - just a shitty company with a terrible work ethic).

If I could only have one for now and for a while, however, I would choose Omnisphere in a second and without thinking twice. And, like others said, you will want Kontakt in the future.

BTW - You will never be "screwed with Omni". I would personally kick you back $100 if you didn't find some way of using it to your enjoyment (and, no, I don't work for Spectrasonics or affiliated in any way). I simply know you will like it.

FarleyCZ · Post by **FarleyCZ** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 11:58 am

Ok, so NOW it's interesting. 2 for 1 EW offer on SoundsOnline appeared.

Arglebargle · Post by **Arglebargle** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:59 pm

FarleyCZ wrote:Ok, so NOW it's interesting. 2 for 1 EW offer on SoundsOnline appeared.

EastWest pretty much always has a 2 for 1 sale.

If you buy any of their products for the normal price you're a tad foolish.

Omnisphere is without a doubt my favorite virtual instrument, but if you need orchestral sounds it won't fit the bill. It's got some nice legato strings but that's it.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:07 pm

Arglebargle wrote:
FarleyCZ wrote:Ok, so NOW it's interesting. 2 for 1 EW offer on SoundsOnline appeared.
EastWest pretty much always has a 2 for 1 sale. If you buy any of their products for the normal price you're a tad foolish.

.....

they usually wait at least a year to make a product eligible for that.. so it also depends if you have a project that needs the product, then for you it is justified buying it at normal price...imho
rsp

Echoes in the Attic · Post by **Echoes in the Attic** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:25 pm

FarleyCZ wrote:Btw back to that resynthesis question. I didin't mean ADSR, but starting point of sample's playback. If soundsource itself has slow attack, if there is a way for me to make it faster.

Yes, you can set the playback start position.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 2:47 pm

You either need it, and no other software instrument, or need it and every other software instrument. That's just how it works.

Now stop flim flam'n us and just get it.

Arrested Developer · Post by **Arrested Developer** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 11:37 am

FarleyCZ wrote:Ok, so NOW it's interesting. 2 for 1 EW offer on SoundsOnline appeared.

If you're interested in real instruments, but with a rather unusual touch, you maybe should think about an ethnic
library (in addition); EW has two of them (Silk and Ra), which offer great sounds (but hardly any possibility of tweaking).

FarleyCZ · Post by **FarleyCZ** » Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:42 pm

Ok guys, thanks all for great inputs.
Thought about it a lot and will be for few days to come, but I think I made the descision for now: Not buying any of that yet. Omni looks amazing, but there are 3 things that I don't like about idea of having it.

1. Once you see demos of it, you start to notice that lightblub and cryogenic sounds everyvhere. In comercials, TV shows etc.

2. It is still more of a synths-sound library then real-sound magler. Great for organic sounds, but I can do them in Zebra already pretty well, so I'd be paying 500 bucks for option of mixing in few guitars, sitars and clotes hangers.

3. The most significant reason of them all. I'd get lazy. I'm seing that with Alchemy. I load few sounds, do some velocity mapping and if it sounds good, go with the results. Not much of synthesis/resynthesis going on even if it's capable of it. This would get crazy in Omni and I would ignore synths I love now...

On the other side, I can't buy EastWest either, becouse combination I'd love: Orchestra Gold and Goliath ... is still 600, about 670 with iLok. Not having that much of money. :/ But SoundsOnline have this offer often so may be next year, if they won't stop.

Amyway, feel free to talk me away from this descision. I gloryfied Omni for too long to just throw it off like that.

Another "Do I need Omnisphere?" topic.