Just bought EZKeys, please don't laugh :)

[braj]

http://secure.keyfax.com/mm5/merchant.m ... y_Code=I_P

I wonder if they ever have sales. I tried a demo file and it is lovely, works perfectly, so I may be looking to get some of these in the future.

[DaveElson]

http://www.midichords.com/index-midichords.php

Edit:
I just purchased Chordpulse, a nice little program imho. I keep going back to it and the author tells me that version 3 is coming later this year, and upgrades are free.
www.chordpulse.com

[braj]

http://www.midichords.com/index-midichords.php

Edit:
I just purchased Chordpulse, a nice little program imho. I keep going back to it and the author tells me that version 3 is coming later this year, and upgrades are free.
www.chordpulse.com

Cool, thanks. But everything there does seem to be trance oriented (not that they can't be used in other things).

EDIT: just saw your edit see my post below!

[gabebrunogarza1021]

http://secure.keyfax.com/mm5/merchant.m ... y_Code=I_P

I wonder if they ever have sales. I tried a demo file and it is lovely, works perfectly, so I may be looking to get some of these in the future.

I've purchase several items from them, but that was before I just went on the internet and found hundreds of sites regarding MIDI files.

[Prosonic-Studios]

Greetings Everyone,

I normally don't enter into discussions like this but some things have been said that I must respond to. I have integrity. I've been in business for a long time and everything I do is honest.

I price my product differently than other companies do... some people don't understand why... so they think something "fishy is going on". But there isn't.

The download libraries are treated like commodities. If there are a lot of people purchasing them the price goes up. If there is little interest in them the price goes down. This is calculated, and the sale price is adjusted, at 12:00 midnight Mountain Standard Time (-7GMT).

There are many reasons why I do this... here are just a few:

It adds value to licensed users:
I want the patterns to be commoditized so that they have a longer valuable life. If millions of people have them then they aren't a unique tool anymore. So this adds value to the patterns for licensed users. If the files start selling to lots and lots of people then the price goes up because I don't want the patterns to get "watered down" or to become more generic and less of a unique tool.

Helps me pay the bills when demand is low:
I'm still a "starving musician" and trying to get by from day to day. So, if times are hard and nobody is purchasing them at the normal price, I can still make a buck by selling them for cheap... (now I can eat and pay the rent). When times are hard for me I sell them for less, my customers benefit, and they help me out at the same time. [Its good for both of us.]

People's perceptions vary:
Some people think that if the files are cheap then the quality is bad or that they aren't legit. [Untrue of course but this is some people's perception.] So these kinds of people will only purchase them if the price is high. On the other hand, a different kind of people are looking for great deals and will only spend ten bucks on something because "its a great deal". Over time this effectively exposes the patterns to a more diverse group of people.

Global exchange rates and a "leveling" of the playing field:
People from countries with very high currency exchange rates will also have the opportunity to get them. And people with lower exchange rates pay a little more if they don't want to wait for the price to come down. This balances out the pricing for me and it seems more fair from a global-economy perspective. So this, again, exposes the patterns to a more diverse group of people on a global scale. [Diversity is good when it comes to art and music. I don't only want rich people to have them. Often times people with less money make better art.]

Bandwidth and technical support:
Bandwidth costs money and the more people downloading the files the slower my website is... thus causing people to leave because my website isn't downloading fast enough. Also, the more people purchasing the files the more technical support I have to provide and this is a huge expense.

It keeps the website dynamic and it promotes "website stickiness":
People visit the website everyday to check up on prices. This keeps them returning to the website and they are more likely to see a new product and purchase it too.

It promotes discussion:
People discuss the pricing on message boards and tell friends when the prices are low. Over time this causes more interest in the site and the tools.

Saves me time:
I don't have to create and run a sale every three months like other companies do.

And last but not least: It's fun! I like doing things differently then everyone else.

I hope that helps to understand why the price changes at midnight and why the price might be higher than what you think they're worth right now.

Tony

[braj]

http://secure.keyfax.com/mm5/merchant.m ... y_Code=I_P

I wonder if they ever have sales. I tried a demo file and it is lovely, works perfectly, so I may be looking to get some of these in the future.

I've purchase several items from them, but that was before I just went on the internet and found hundreds of sites regarding MIDI files.

Yeah, but there is the saying 'time is money' and the libraries they sell would (I guess) be more coherent than a lot of random files. Just maybe half the price would be more digestible for me.

[Cap'n Spanky]

Damn you, you made me look on YouTube on what this thing is about.

Turns out it's a mix of Harmony Improvisator mixed with Catanya and throwing in a nice piano pack with great EZMix presets to make like 10 different versions out of it.

Now I'm more than interested.

Yeah, I see now it has more capabilities than I originally thought. I'm very interested.

I do hope they consider adding bass and drums to this.

[braj]

I saw somewhere a screenshot with "Upright Piano' in the Library drop menu. I would love a Rhodes library, and definitely bass guitar. Drums I have covered in BFD and Toontrack has their EZDrummer line, so I doubt that will show up in EZKeys. But an updated EZDrummer with a drum arranger section (like BFD) seems likely.

[braj]

http://www.midichords.com/index-midichords.php

Edit:
I just purchased Chordpulse, a nice little program imho. I keep going back to it and the author tells me that version 3 is coming later this year, and upgrades are free.
www.chordpulse.com

I also have that. I dont use it quite as much as I would like. I asked the dev if he can make a vst version, which would be really neat. But it doesn't have the handy circle of fifths from Ezkeys. Of course it is not hard to reference that manually, even Fromm Ezkeys I exported something last night from it, grabbed out the piano and imported to Ezkeys. I think they make a pretty nice pair actually.

[braj]

Greetings Everyone,

I normally don't enter into discussions like this but some things have been said that I must respond to. I have integrity. I've been in business for a long time and everything I do is honest.

I price my product differently than other companies do... some people don't understand why... so they think something "fishy is going on". But there isn't.

The download libraries are treated like commodities. If there are a lot of people purchasing them the price goes up. If there is little interest in them the price goes down. This is calculated, and the sale price is adjusted, at 12:00 midnight Mountain Standard Time (-7GMT).

There are many reasons why I do this... here are just a few:

It adds value to licensed users:
I want the patterns to be commoditized so that they have a longer valuable life. If millions of people have them then they aren't a unique tool anymore. So this adds value to the patterns for licensed users. If the files start selling to lots and lots of people then the price goes up because I don't want the patterns to get "watered down" or to become more generic and less of a unique tool.

Helps me pay the bills when demand is low:
I'm still a "starving musician" and trying to get by from day to day. So, if times are hard and nobody is purchasing them at the normal price, I can still make a buck by selling them for cheap... (now I can eat and pay the rent). When times are hard for me I sell them for less, my customers benefit, and they help me out at the same time. [Its good for both of us.]

People's perceptions vary:
Some people think that if the files are cheap then the quality is bad or that they aren't legit. [Untrue of course but this is some people's perception.] So these kinds of people will only purchase them if the price is high. On the other hand, a different kind of people are looking for great deals and will only spend ten bucks on something because "its a great deal". Over time this effectively exposes the patterns to a more diverse group of people.

Global exchange rates and a "leveling" of the playing field:
People from countries with very high currency exchange rates will also have the opportunity to get them. And people with lower exchange rates pay a little more if they don't want to wait for the price to come down. This balances out the pricing for me and it seems more fair from a global-economy perspective. So this, again, exposes the patterns to a more diverse group of people on a global scale. [Diversity is good when it comes to art and music. I don't only want rich people to have them. Often times people with less money make better art.]

Bandwidth and technical support:
Bandwidth costs money and the more people downloading the files the slower my website is... thus causing people to leave because my website isn't downloading fast enough. Also, the more people purchasing the files the more technical support I have to provide and this is a huge expense.

It keeps the website dynamic and it promotes "website stickiness":
People visit the website everyday to check up on prices. This keeps them returning to the website and they are more likely to see a new product and purchase it too.

It promotes discussion:
People discuss the pricing on message boards and tell friends when the prices are low. Over time this causes more interest in the site and the tools.

Saves me time:
I don't have to create and run a sale every three months like other companies do.

And last but not least: It's fun! I like doing things differently then everyone else.

I hope that helps to understand why the price changes at midnight and why the price might be higher than what you think they're worth right now.

Tony

Thanks for the in-depth explanation. Just some feedback: I prefer a standard pricing model myself and your system does come off as a little fishy to someone unaware of your intentions.

[ObsoleteAcc99]

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[Prosonic-Studios]

Hey ttoz thanks man! I really like the way the album turned out. The demos for the album (like the demos for the midi patterns) are showing only a fraction of what's on the whole thing. (It's a heck of a lot better when you get the full experience!)

After the downturn in the economy (and after the warez sites got a hold of my files) I've had to take on other jobs to pay the bills. The warez sites (and the torrent sites) are killing content providers like me. It's a shame because we have a lot to offer.

I'm not a big organization with a bank-roll like most of these companies. I'm just a one man show now and I have a whole list of things to get done. The demos need upgrading. I have plans for video demos but that takes a lot of time/money to do (even the simple audio demos take a while). I'm making progress but it's painfully slow right now.

Thanks again for digging my music! (Let me know when you want a copy and I'll sign it for you.)

Tony

PS: The Ghosts of Orion

[donato]

I didn't know what EZkeys was really, but have always been interested in compositional tools. I've downloaded Navigator and some of the other competitors' demos, but deleted them before ever trying them. Reading about this product and seeing the videos, I could see it being useful. So I read about it around the web on some forums, then stumbled upon another product: http://re-compose.com/liquid-notes.html I haven't tried either yet, but downloaded the demo's and hope to get to them this weekend. Going simply by videos, I think Liquid Notes may be a lot more up my alley. I was pretty blown away by this video:







So, I'll try and report my impressions later.

[audington]

Just bought this, thanks for the tip. Shame that AudioDeluxe also don't sell the MIDI add-on pack, I'd have grabbed that at the same time

[braj]

I didn't know what EZkeys was really, but have always been interested in compositional tools. I've downloaded Navigator and some of the other competitors' demos, but deleted them before ever trying them. Reading about this product and seeing the videos, I could see it being useful. So I read about it around the web on some forums, then stumbled upon another product: http://re-compose.com/liquid-notes.html I haven't tried either yet, but downloaded the demo's and hope to get to them this weekend. Going simply by videos, I think Liquid Notes may be a lot more up my alley. I was pretty blown away by this video:







So, I'll try and report my impressions later.

That looks interesting, and I could see using that with EZKeys too. You need the chord progressions first in the DAW to import, so it seens to have a fully different function than EZKeys, which is like a shortcut tool to me for creating the progressions in the first place. I'd love to see some sort of hybrid of these two, all working within a DAW I also downloaded the demo just now, will check it out (though the price is mighty high for me).