KVR Audio

nonconforme · Post by **nonconforme** » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:10 pm

Let's say I convert an IR from (say) GodsCab to .tur, with the overload information (as it is created with specific algos), am I forced to use the microphones in WoS III then?

The overload information is captured during the process, a conversion from a .wav file cannot "guess" what is the overloading on your cabinet.

The miking part requires a LOT of measurements with the cabinet and all the microphones of the list. This is only possible in our studio right now and, again, you don't have that in a regular .wav file.

A Torpedo .tsr file (the proprietary format) is somehow equivalent to 20 000 different IRs (one for each position). We are doing IR synthesis actually.

So, basically WoS III, can read your wav files, no problem, but only the cabinets given through the Two Notes Store have all the possibilities, and you just have the Overload with a .tur you make by actually measuring your cabinet;

Take a look at the user's manual of WoS III I hope it is better explained.

Compyfox · Post by **Compyfox** » Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:25 pm

Will do

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Wed Aug 28, 2013 6:03 pm

Compyfox wrote:I'm only scratching the surface myself (thanks to susiwong and Dean), but boy did I learn a lot about guitars over the course of the last year! More than I ever did at engineering schools.

codec_spurt:
I'd say... go over to the TwoNotes homepage, grab the "Wall of Sound" plugin - it's pretty much like IKM's AT Custom Shop, just sans the need to register anything until the plugin starts bugging you (8 EUR minimum and that thing is yours - forever!).

A chain would be:

Stomp Box (Boost Pedal or Distortion Pedal) -> Amp Head (whatever you like) -> Torpedo WoS (for another gain boost with the head, and proper cabinet).

Don't forget the compressor and maybe even delay/reverb stomps that you want prior to the amp head, or just a delay mixed along post the amp head. It's up to you. But this is the general setup.

So:
Guitar -> DI -> ADC -> Stomp -> Amp Head -> Cabinet => Record

Or if you're using samples, then just:
Guitar VSTi -> Stomp -> Amp head -> Cabinet => Record

Dean:
"two mini me's" - hah, nice one for talking about children.

Anytime mate, I am pleased that some of the stuff susiwong and myself wrote together and separately has helped out, That is what it is all about for me
when I visit/read forums to help out others and get help in other areas,
Yourself and codec have helped me with information on metering for example. So happy to be part of a two way street.
I am relatively new to using all stuff ITB and hibidy has helped me a lot in that respect, Before I didn't have the grunt to run ITB stuff as I wanted to and pretty much just used cabinet IR's from my rigs, That has changed as of around 6 or so months ago and I enjoy incorporating each on its own merit and especially mixing the two for best of both worlds.
My two Children keep me so busy that I honestly do not get much time at all to spend on audio and music and doing it as a fulltime single father is pretty brutal but my family do help me as and when they can. Its the best thing I have ever done as a human being but also audio career wise the worst thing I have ever done (or up there with the best of the worst). Hopefully I won't be too old and past it to get back into things once they are in their mid/late teens.
I have a Son, Luke whom is 11 and a Daughter, Molly whom is almost 9. I'm 30 now so as said their will be a time when I can get back to audio properly after completing the role of nekro housewife

All the best to everyone as always and the guy's at two-notes for their great work, I'm going to have a go with that thingy tool that adds speaker breakup to full on meltdown in one's own IR files

Dean

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Wed Aug 28, 2013 7:50 pm

Dean is appreciated, I know you are busy, always glad to hear from you

nonconforme · Post by **nonconforme** » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:04 pm

Dear all,

we just released the 3.0.12 version of WoS III Bêta. If your computer is connected to a working Internet connection the update will start next time you launch the plugin. Otherwise you can download it on our Two Notes website at:

http://www.two-notes.com/en/software/to ... /#download

What's new?

3.0.12:
- Solved : crash when closing sessions
- Solved : crash when loading presets
- Solved : bad redrawing when several instances of the plugin
- Solved: problem with keyboard focus on Ableton Live (PC)
- Mac: better alert window handling
- Solved: Minor graphic issues
- Minor bug fixes

Please help us improve the plugin: report any bug you find to our Help Desk.

http://support.two-notes.com/

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Thu Aug 29, 2013 6:54 pm

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Thu Aug 29, 2013 7:10 pm

showing plugin gui is WAY faster! yay! let's see if my crashes were fixed...

EDIT: nope, still crashing on REAPER x64.
EDIT2: ...and another bug

a show stopper, so i go back to 3.10 for now...

codec_spurt · Post by **codec_spurt** » Thu Aug 29, 2013 10:07 pm

Dean Aka Nekro wrote:
codec_spurt:
I'd say... go over to the TwoNotes homepage, grab the "Wall of Sound" plugin - it's pretty much like IKM's AT Custom Shop, just sans the need to register anything until the plugin starts bugging you (8 EUR minimum and that thing is yours - forever!).

A chain would be:

Stomp Box (Boost Pedal or Distortion Pedal) -> Amp Head (whatever you like) -> Torpedo WoS (for another gain boost with the head, and proper cabinet).

Don't forget the compressor and maybe even delay/reverb stomps that you want prior to the amp head, or just a delay mixed along post the amp head. It's up to you. But this is the general setup.

So:
Guitar -> DI -> ADC -> Stomp -> Amp Head -> Cabinet => Record

Or if you're using samples, then just:
Guitar VSTi -> Stomp -> Amp head -> Cabinet => Record

I'm loving the LePou 456. The TSE. The CabEnhancer by AcmeBarGig.

You sold me on the TwoNotes stuff. That and the excellent fully functional demo they gave with CM. Hey, thanks Computer Music, too...

I learned so much stuff from you and Hibidy (Hink too), SusiWong et al.

I really appreciate the time you take to spread the knowledge that it must have taken you a long time to build up.

I can see from the number of hits on the posts you participate in, that a lot more people read, than say thanks. But that's ok. Some call it Karma.

Talking of karma, I'll get that pedal off to you next week. Bit dried out at the moment, just bought ToneBoosters Essential pack. Pretty financially wiped out..

But hey, thanks Dean!. You'll have it in a few days.

All the best to you and the little chaps.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:21 am

Finally had a chance to try out this little plug. I like it a lot but it kept crashing Live 9 and it seems to take forever to load the UI and then wait for the license. I know, beta version. Sounds good though..

We creep ever closer to my beloved Kemper.

I even start go get excited but then I start to think, "well, I'll need a tube pre" and there lies the rabbit hole. What one? Amp with power soak?

In the end there are just too many options and software and hardware amp sims has made me greedy for variety! Why doesn't Two Notes polish this off with preamp sims and some effects and make it a one stop shopping experience? At one point I had Polin le458, Torpedo WoSIII, Uhbik D and A all going go get the type of lead sound I was going for. Sounds excellent, but I love the Amplitube/Guitar Rig idea that it's all in one plug and expandable. Maybe I'm lazy. Anyway I keep thinking I'll have to give up having a nice big room for a studio and go back to software one day and I think when I'm ready I'll have a lot of good options.

hibidy · Post by **hibidy** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 1:01 am

Crashed live 9 like crazy.

Doesn't like S1 still but loads MUCH faster in live 9 now.

nonconforme · Post by **nonconforme** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 10:40 am

For those having crashes issue, is there any way you send us through the Help Desk a crash report in text format? The alp crash report from Ableton is useless (maybe Ableton can read them), your OS should display a crash message with some information.

So far Ableton 9 and 10 work on our test machines, as well as Reaper 64 and we don't have crashes, so they must be hidden somewhere...

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 3:38 pm

nonconforme, i guess it would really help to get some kind of crash dumping in the plugin, because Windows crash logs aren't too useful. for example, i have an issue open with support since a month ago, and they can't reproduce it (and i can't do so reliably either because it's random). having a proper crash dump would help developers immensely

nonconforme · Post by **nonconforme** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 4:04 pm

Well it is not that easy to embed a crash log system in the plugin, and actually the one that we can have with the OS (mac or Win) can be helpful. But i'll talk about that with the dev team, everybody is back on monday (most of them were away during last month

).

And we released a 3.0.14 just right now because we had some major improvement since yesterday, I thought it was important to have them before the week end.

Burillo · Post by **Burillo** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:17 pm

nonconforme, yes, that show stopper bug i reported was fixed, so i am now at 3.0.14

hopefully the other one will get fixed too.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:29 pm

nonconforme wrote:For those having crashes issue, is there any way you send us through the Help Desk a crash report in text format? The alp crash report from Ableton is useless (maybe Ableton can read them), your OS should display a crash message with some information.

So far Ableton 9 and 10 work on our test machines, as well as Reaper 64 and we don't have crashes, so they must be hidden somewhere...

Live 10?

BTW, when it crashed Live 9 there wasn't any useful information. Just a message telling me Live had to quit.

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