Hewitt's first sentence response sums it up nicely I think. If there's someone out there making something interesting sonically that is using electronic generation of signal, then it will continue to be the golden age.
Yeah there's a bunch more people creating junk - so what? If you can't find enjoyable electronic music these days it's your own fault, not some big-shot at a radio station or record company's fault.
Like the cool stuff on Pandora. You'll get more that you like - or any streaming service.
As for being able to make money at this 10-20 years ago being easier than it is now, I say that's pretty funny. Back then you HAD to be 'DISCOVERED' by a company to be paid. Now, getting 'discovered' is entirely your own gig and whether the public really likes your stuff or not.
The fact that in my little laptop, I have very reasonable knock-offs of B3, Wurly, Rhodes, Minimoog, ARP 2600, Yamaha CMS, DX7, Roland Jupiter and Juno, etc. etc. etc. all for free, with no back pain lugging them; and amplifier simulations that sound better than I could ever record them acoustically in my home, etc. etc. etc. is so incredibly freaking fun that I cannot imagine a better time to enjoy a music making hobby as it pertains to electronic music. The future is up to us to continue the golden age.
-Scott
Is this a golden age for electronic musicians? *Poll*
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
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- KVRAF
- 4056 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Hamilton, New Zealand
Depends whether you're a listener or a producer. If you're a listener, no. If you're a producer, yes.
I make music: progressive-acoustic | electronica/game-soundtrack work | progressive alt-metal
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- KVRist
- 274 posts since 6 Oct, 2013 from South Australia
As a musician, I voted yes. I've been making electronic music now since the early 80's and the tools and possibilities I have in my studio today are way beyond anything I could've imagined not that long ago.
I still have all the instruments I purchased in the 80's and have added much more since. Computer power these days allows me to do all the things I wanted to do years ago but simply didn't have the budget for.
As for the saturation of artists and music 'out there' today, I really couldn't care less about it. I write and record music because I love doing it. I don't care about popularity contests and airplay. I care about doing what I love. If others also love it, that is a bonus.
I still have all the instruments I purchased in the 80's and have added much more since. Computer power these days allows me to do all the things I wanted to do years ago but simply didn't have the budget for.
As for the saturation of artists and music 'out there' today, I really couldn't care less about it. I write and record music because I love doing it. I don't care about popularity contests and airplay. I care about doing what I love. If others also love it, that is a bonus.
My music - AusDisciplesBand.com. New site - Synthesizers.Audio
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- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
any "age" is what you make it.you can sit around waiting/waxing nostalgic or you can grab the bull by the horns and do shit!
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- Banned
- 10196 posts since 12 Mar, 2012 from the Bavarian Alps to my feet and the globe around my head
Take care!vurt wrote:any "age" is what you make it.you can sit around waiting/waxing nostalgic or you can grab the bull by the horns and do shit!
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- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
just punch it in the face, they go down like a sack of shit! bam!
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- KVRAF
- 4287 posts since 6 Nov, 2009
DX7? Is it Hexter or is there a free DX7 clone I don't know about?rockstar_not wrote:Hewitt's first sentence response sums it up nicely I think. If there's someone out there making something interesting sonically that is using electronic generation of signal, then it will continue to be the golden age.
Yeah there's a bunch more people creating junk - so what? If you can't find enjoyable electronic music these days it's your own fault, not some big-shot at a radio station or record company's fault.
Like the cool stuff on Pandora. You'll get more that you like - or any streaming service.
As for being able to make money at this 10-20 years ago being easier than it is now, I say that's pretty funny. Back then you HAD to be 'DISCOVERED' by a company to be paid. Now, getting 'discovered' is entirely your own gig and whether the public really likes your stuff or not.
The fact that in my little laptop, I have very reasonable knock-offs of B3, Wurly, Rhodes, Minimoog, ARP 2600, Yamaha CMS, DX7, Roland Jupiter and Juno, etc. etc. etc. all for free, with no back pain lugging them; and amplifier simulations that sound better than I could ever record them acoustically in my home, etc. etc. etc. is so incredibly freaking fun that I cannot imagine a better time to enjoy a music making hobby as it pertains to electronic music. The future is up to us to continue the golden age.
-Scott
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SuitcaseOfLizards SuitcaseOfLizards https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2363 - KVRAF
- 10879 posts since 3 Apr, 2002 from Austin, TX USA
I voted Oui instead of Non, as I didn't want to Poisson myself.Tricky-Loops wrote:+1,000,000,000Sequent wrote:It seems to me that people used to do a lot more with a lot less.
The crazy thing is: The more stuff (synths, effects etc.) I have, the less music I make actually.
It's the best of times, it's the worst of times. For gear, I have in my laptop audio power that even an Emerson Lake and Palmer concert can't match. I have several studios worth of gear I could never have afforded even 8 years ago.
But I made more music when it was just my Roland U20, an Oberheim drum machine, and my Ibanez guitar.
And yes, there's a TON of electronic music, but most of it is derivative.
The good stuff is buried in the noise.Bandcamp: https://suitcaseoflizards.bandcamp.com/
Linux Mint, Waveform 13 Pro, U-He synths, Audio Damage effects,.
Linux Mint, Waveform 13 Pro, U-He synths, Audio Damage effects,.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
indeed.woolyloach wrote: The good stuff is buried in the noise.
although i think we mean different things
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Armadillosound Armadillosound https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=311380 - KVRian
- 796 posts since 28 Aug, 2013
I voted Non because it's not new anymore. Yes things keep moving on and the technology is more easily accessible, but electronic music was more distinctive back in the 70's/80's. I think the edges have blurred a great deal and often people find it difficult to tell the difference between music made using computers and that played by real musicians. I don't think electronic music stands out anymore in the way that it did.
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- KVRAF
- 4908 posts since 10 Aug, 2004 from Colorado Springs
http://www.kvraudio.com/product/double_ ... odo_synthsarkmabat wrote:DX7? Is it Hexter or is there a free DX7 clone I don't know about?rockstar_not wrote:Hewitt's first sentence response sums it up nicely I think. If there's someone out there making something interesting sonically that is using electronic generation of signal, then it will continue to be the golden age.
Yeah there's a bunch more people creating junk - so what? If you can't find enjoyable electronic music these days it's your own fault, not some big-shot at a radio station or record company's fault.
Like the cool stuff on Pandora. You'll get more that you like - or any streaming service.
As for being able to make money at this 10-20 years ago being easier than it is now, I say that's pretty funny. Back then you HAD to be 'DISCOVERED' by a company to be paid. Now, getting 'discovered' is entirely your own gig and whether the public really likes your stuff or not.
The fact that in my little laptop, I have very reasonable knock-offs of B3, Wurly, Rhodes, Minimoog, ARP 2600, Yamaha CMS, DX7, Roland Jupiter and Juno, etc. etc. etc. all for free, with no back pain lugging them; and amplifier simulations that sound better than I could ever record them acoustically in my home, etc. etc. etc. is so incredibly freaking fun that I cannot imagine a better time to enjoy a music making hobby as it pertains to electronic music. The future is up to us to continue the golden age.
-Scott
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- KVRAF
- 26033 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
it seems to me that relatively few new techniques are cropping up in 'electronic music', as opposed to forty years ago. there are some, scanning the sample in the ways that Skanner does is novel, ways of approaching granularity are, but these actually hark back to ground that was broken via other methods some time ago. A really young person with no sense of history might tend to take certain things as new that aren't at all, additionally.
I think it's a technological golden age but I don't think the correspondence of new tech to new ideas is as close as it was quite some time ago. So my vote is a no. as per 'electronic musicians' as I think the majority of people will take that term. OTOH, since all recording is electronic today, the technology that makes producing music possible is a serious advance, it would have literally taken millions of dollars, my output, when I was a kid, so in that sense, certainly.
I think it's a technological golden age but I don't think the correspondence of new tech to new ideas is as close as it was quite some time ago. So my vote is a no. as per 'electronic musicians' as I think the majority of people will take that term. OTOH, since all recording is electronic today, the technology that makes producing music possible is a serious advance, it would have literally taken millions of dollars, my output, when I was a kid, so in that sense, certainly.
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- KVRAF
- 3617 posts since 28 Jan, 2006 from Phoenix, AZ
I disagree. I don't listen to yesterday's music for a reason. They didn't "get it" in my opinion. I like where music is today. Believe it or not I grew up hating music. I can't stand 70s 80s or 90s music. Edit: So I'm trying to defend today's music.Tricky-Loops wrote:+1,000,000,000Sequent wrote:It seems to me that people used to do a lot more with a lot less.
The crazy thing is: The more stuff (synths, effects etc.) I have, the less music I make actually.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111343 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
nobody at all "got" music before 13 years ago?
are you f**king mad?
are you f**king mad?
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- KVRAF
- 3617 posts since 28 Jan, 2006 from Phoenix, AZ
its kinda true, and I'm being 100% serious. i won't deny it. Edit: IN MY OPINION, they didn't get it. It's not a fact, clearly.vurt wrote:nobody at all "got" music before 13 years ago?
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