KVR Audio

ToneCarver · Post by **ToneCarver** » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:34 am

Thanks for all the good suggestions everyone. I'd like to tidy up MbiraGen before getting back to Boids (or Nova) but I'll keep the ideas in mind for the future.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Thu Dec 05, 2013 4:04 pm

ToneCarver wrote:Thanks for all the good suggestions everyone. I'd like to tidy up MbiraGen before getting back to Boids (or Nova) but I'll keep the ideas in mind for the future.

No pressure, just wanted to give some feedback

I have some graphic glitches here with Mbira:

The numbers for Start and Len seem to have dropped down

After I save and reload this scene in Ableton Live (happens in other Hosts too) I get this screen:

Quite some stuff missing from the screen...

Cheers,

Tom

tl · Post by tl » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:58 am

great thanks for yr plugins
and especially the 32bit version of mbiragen, tonecarver.

been foolin' around with it the whole morning
but i have to wrap my head around it a bit more.

i really enjoy and respect yr work
concerning unique midi generation plugins.

cheers,
tl.

shanecgriffo · Post by **shanecgriffo** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 11:23 am

wow great stuff , thanks for this Tonecarver, the presets are lovely too (listening with some of the keys presets in glass viper vsti - so nice!)
working well so far in ableton 9

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 9:58 pm

BTW: Nova3 still has the problem of non-sounding notes a lot. It seems worse when the GUI is not visible. But even with it up, I get a lot of visual collisions that don't trigger notes.

(Sorry for the cross-references to your other plugins. MbiraGen triggers some other things generatively

)

Thanks and cheers!

Tom

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Sat Dec 07, 2013 10:36 pm

- Does the Velocity Jitter do anything? I tried with the Velocity Sequencer on and off but the midi monitor shows no effect of the Velocity Jitter. Would be cool if that would work on top of the Sequencer to make it less static.

- Not sure about Lenght-Jitter either - is it extremely subtle or not implemented yet?

I totally love this thing! Thank you so much!

Cheers,

Tom

ToneCarver · Post by **ToneCarver** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:48 am

Thanks for the props folks .. glad you are enjoying it ...

ThomasHelzle wrote:- Does the Velocity Jitter do anything? I tried with the Velocity Sequencer on and off but the midi monitor shows no effect of the Velocity Jitter. Would be cool if that would work on top of the Sequencer to make it less static.

- Not sure about Lenght-Jitter either - is it extremely subtle or not implemented yet?

Ah, good catch. I just checked and the jitters are not doing anything in this version. I have been working on the next update and will include the jitters in the upcoming version.

Thanks for the note on Nova missing notes too. Will keep that in mind when that gets some rework attention.

ToneCarver · Post by **ToneCarver** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 8:28 pm

MbiraGen v1.0b is now up.

The zip file is here: MbiraGen_v1.0b

Changes in this version:
- added span control to select range of melody columns for sequencing
- added scales
- added melody sequencer direction control (fwd,bkwd,random,etc)
- fixed missing parameters after restore
- added missing length jitter
- added missing velocity jitter
- misc GUI adjustments
- added a few presets

Fixed several bugs and replaced the 'number of steps' knob with a sliding span control. See the blue triangles above the melody matrix. Drag the triangles to adjust the range of melodies included in the sequence. Drag the line between the triangles to slide the entire range to a different set of melody columns.

** Be careful about using this version in any existing projects. The save/restore format changed so any projects created with the previous version of the plugin will not load correctly using this version. Presets will load fine but saved projects will not.

Enjoy

SODDI · Post by **SODDI** » Sun Dec 08, 2013 9:15 pm

This is a very nice sequencer. As good as something I just bought.

studio4 · Post by **studio4** » Mon Dec 09, 2013 11:50 pm

Thanks for the update. Save/restore works fine now. I only noticed that presets I made with the previous version sound slightly different now. Did you change the degrees somehow?

studio4 · Post by **studio4** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 1:44 pm

For example: highlighted note now results in F (originally E)

version 1.0a:

version 1.0b:

ToneCarver · Post by **ToneCarver** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:26 pm

studio4 wrote:For example: highlighted note now results in F (originally E)

Thanks for the detailed comparison. I don't recall if I made changes to the 'Triad 7th' or not but I did fix a bug in the scale generator that may have been causing wrong notes

. What you are seeing in v1.0b are the correct notes for the degree/tonic/mode you have. The cell you highlighted is at interval 5 for tonic C so the notes (from bottom to top cells) are G B D F G'.

As it turns out, another

, the 'Sus 4th' degrees is not correct. It happens to follow the pattern you were seeing in v1.0a, 1 3 5 6 8, or G B D E G'.

For a quick work-around you can use the Sus 4th degrees in your existing projects - in the mean time I'll put out a new version with a corrected Sus 4th and a new Triad 6th which should produce the pattern you were expecting. Sorry for the hassles, new version should be ready soon.

ToneCarver · Post by **ToneCarver** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:11 pm

Version 1.0c is now up: MbiraGen_v1.0c

Changes are:
- fixed bug in Sus 4th degrees
- added Triad 6th degree (1 3 5 6 8 )
- added Triad 6+7 degree (1 3 5 6 7)
- added Celtic scale
- added presets
fleeting glimpse
zzz_empty

@studio4: try the Triad 6th pattern instead of the Triad 7th, that should fix your incorrect note problem.

studio4 · Post by **studio4** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:52 pm

Wow, that was fast. Thanks a lot. Great work.

ThomasHelzle · Post by **ThomasHelzle** » Tue Dec 10, 2013 4:28 pm

studio4 wrote:Wow, that was fast. Thanks a lot. Great work.

A big THANK YOU from me as well

Cheers,

Tom