Omnisphere 2: $500 Crackle Effect?

[noiseboyuk]

Yes, give us some specific steps perhaps Wagtunes, or upload a problem patch? I've used both granular and inner space in a user sample with no issues.

[wagtunes]

Yes, give us some specific steps perhaps Wagtunes, or upload a problem patch? I've used both granular and inner space in a user sample with no issues.

Well, I've already done 210 patches for Omni 2 and I honestly don't remember which ones were the problems. But the next time I create one that gives me fits, I make a not of all the settings and post them here.

[Echoes in the Attic]

I have to say that the cup usage when using granular is probably my biggest complaint. Granular lends itself well to pads of course but any more than about three notes polyphony with the new granular mode and it's bye bye cpu. An entire core of my quad core i7 gone. Somewhat surprising as granular has never really been that cpu demanding before. If you look reaktor granulars or the mangle or many others, they don't seem to be especially noticeable on cpu. But with omni most synthesis functions are fairly efficient, but the granular just destroys cpu.

I will say though, that granular on the dsp oscs can do some pretty gnarly stuff.

I do hope they prioritize making that significantly more efficient.

[Ciberithm]

This is an example of the clipping sounds I get when playing multiple notes. This clip is just three notes with velocity of 100 introduced one at a time. You can hear the distortion start when the second note is played, and gets bad on note 3. The Ableton meters never went over 0db, and thre is no limiter on the patch. It is from organs, and is "hiwatt hammond 1".

https://soundcloud.com/david-maestas-1/ ... ng-example

[izonin]

This is an example of the clipping sounds I get when playing multiple notes. This clip is just three notes with velocity of 100 introduced one at a time. You can hear the distortion start when the second note is played, and gets bad on note 3. The Ableton meters never went over 0db, and thre is no limiter on the patch. It is from organs, and is "hiwatt hammond 1".

https://soundcloud.com/david-maestas-1/ ... ng-example

What would B3 be without some distortion...
Go to FX and you'll probably see that a distortion/overdrive is on. (in Vintage Organs for Kontakt it's called Saturation)

[Ciberithm]

Don't listen to the distortion, but the crackling when the third note comes in. It's subtle, but it's there.

I uploaded another clip with the saturation effect (and all others) turned off.

https://soundcloud.com/david-maestas-1/ ... mple-no-fx

[izonin]

Yes, now I hear it clearly. Hmm, does increasing the audio buffer solve this? What does the CPU meter show?
Also do you have any CPU fan speed control apps running? (assuming you're on Windows)

[noiseboyuk]

Don't listen to the distortion, but the crackling when the third note comes in. It's subtle, but it's there.

I uploaded another clip with the saturation effect (and all others) turned off.

https://soundcloud.com/david-maestas-1/ ... mple-no-fx

Yes, I hear that. What's the patch name so we / others can try to reproduce?

[db3]

Yes, I can hear the noise with hiwatt hammond 1. The patch barely registers on my DAW CPU meter.
For me the patch cleans up when I remove the Tape Slammer effect.

[Kinh]

But that's the problem. Granular DOES produce unwanted artifacts and there are people who DO want to use it. And yes, it CAN be used musically.

It's just like any other tool. It's the user, not the tool itself.

Could you explain to me how it can be used musically. Or give me examples of music where its been used. I seriously dont get it.

Id be good if you could convert it to a rhythm but I cant figure out what approach you would try there, I mean you apply an envelope to it it just morphs back and forth from the the original sound and there's not really a noticeable rhythm given audio is constant and the granular is so airy...in other words its like morphing a distortion or reverb in hope to construct a rhythm...that cant be done.

I dont know if you've used kinetic metal but that thing morphs textures brilliantly, can be applied to Dance, anything. Just wish I could get the same joy out of the granular. The only way I can think of is to keep the grains loose then modulate volume. But thats not really the same thing.

[noiseboyuk]

Could you explain to me how it can be used musically. Or give me examples of music where its been used. I seriously dont get it

[gassle]

Don't listen to the distortion, but the crackling when the third note comes in. It's subtle, but it's there.

I uploaded another clip with the saturation effect (and all others) turned off.

https://soundcloud.com/david-maestas-1/ ... mple-no-fx

To me original patch sounds like it's supposed to be distorted. In the dry example above, are you sure you also turned off Tape Slammer FX?

[Amlno3]

The new granular is beautiful...when I can hear it in between audio dropouts and distortion from cpu overload. Sigh.

[Ciberithm]

Don't listen to the distortion, but the crackling when the third note comes in. It's subtle, but it's there.

I uploaded another clip with the saturation effect (and all others) turned off.

https://soundcloud.com/david-maestas-1/ ... mple-no-fx

To me original patch sounds like it's supposed to be distorted. In the dry example above, are you sure you also turned off Tape Slammer FX?

Yes, all FX are turned off. The crackle is not distortion but the distortion in the earlier clips masked it. My audio buffer is 1024 samples for the tests. I normally run at 64 with no dropouts.

[db3]

With all common effects turned off, the preset is too loud for my DAW - the noise comes from clipping. When I turn down the level the noise disappears.