Please add it back again, or just delete the whole function.Jakob / Cableguys wrote:But for us, the question is: how many users ever want to use the random function? And if they do, does randomizing points provide satisfying results (or inspiration)? Is it for practical or inspirational use for more than a very small fraction of users?
I was under the impression from all tests, that it is not. Thus the decision to bury the random function in the menu. If random is of enough good use, I am happy to add the button again.
I have to speak out when it comes to argueing about if its good enuff or not, like is it for practical or inspirational use.
This is not a given, it is all dependent on the skills of the user and comes down to what he aims to achive.
I think it's a really poor way of judgeing a function by how many users 'appears' to use it or not. Many of users don't have the luxury time of spending time at forums like this, and for sure not the time to write various ways of explaining the same thing over and over.
Should really the majority rule out the minority? The Mob Rules?
I can only see that as very contraproductive and does not lay any foundation for innovation at all.
Now let me ask you this, do you automate and control your Chorus/Flanger/Phaser all the time?
Do you ever make use of a random LFO waveform in you synths?
(Space for reflection and comtemplation)
------- Now please consider this....
Random LFO Waveform are and have been frequently used in synths and in filters as well, not to mention modular systems.
To have this randomise tool at hand is very useful for those who knows and is a possibility for further exploration into the wonders of creativity and innovation for those who choose to do so.
Now, Midishaper is an external LFO with the possiblity to design your own waveform, this is more or less the whole sale pitch is it not?
In this context it would be a clear advantage to be able to randomise waveforms since it is a part of the whole LFO concept to begin with,
Although to be able to randomise with procentage like 12% or 23% and so on. This would be a good way of making slight variations to your waveform.
The same logic apply to Filtershaper and as well Volumeshaper although with Volumeshaper the situations this would be used are much less.
I still have hard time understand why this is met with so much resistance and avoidance? Some user apparently think this is a question of if they use it or not, which it is not.
I did asked why moving this feature is better? And all I get is avoidance with sidetrack issues like, users dont seems to use it.
I am asking it again, why is this better? I know you do know it is not. So why the refusal to understand that you made a misstake with this certain choice?
The Midishaper update was a disaster according to me, I deleted the update and asked me the same question I still do.
If Midishaper is actual suppose to be a flexible "LFO" wavefrom plugin and is created with that purpose, how can the last update be better for practical use?
You did sacrifice half of the edit menu on Midishaper for empty USELESS SPACE.
I am adressing this in the Volumeshaper Beta Thread I know that, but I wouldn't do so if it wasn't for the fact that I see the pattern of doing the same misstake with all your plugins.
[ Using Randomness is not down to pure luck, its a skill to know when to use and how to. With it you can create complex stuff which would at best take years of manual effort ( that excludes the time it would take it to think it out, and sometimes im not too sure anybody could ).......
If you lack to grasp this you still have much to learn little grasshopper. ]
Kung Fu Out....
