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jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:26 pm

"Basically in American Pie things are heading in the wrong direction. ... It [life] is becoming less idyllic. I don't know whether you consider that wrong or right but it is a morality song in a sense." - Don McLean.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Tue Nov 10, 2015 10:27 pm

It is not my idea of great pop music. grating, maybe. it was insanely ubiquitous at that time.

Frantz · Post by **Frantz** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 1:43 am

harryupbabble wrote:Because the music died? What music? Pop music died? Rock music?

The Day The Music Died.

On 3rd Feb 1959, 22-year-old Buddy Holly, the Big Bopper, and Ritchie Valens, aged 17, died in a plane crash shortly after takeoff from Clear Lake, Iowa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Day_the_Music_Died

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 3:12 pm

Read the lyrics on Google Play (whatever that is) and realized I hadn't been aware that song had so many words in it, ha ha... As well as so many references to other musicians and music. I guess it was always just a chorus and 'overplayed classic" radio song to me. I didn't pay much attention. The more catchy a thing is, the more it gets played, the more it risks my active disinterest (or ire).

Sometimes catchy music gets lodged in my head, repeating over and over... makes me a bit wonky... especially if it sounds cheery

(getting a They might Be Giants song stuck in my head like that can be particularly agonizing, and I LIKE them).

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:06 pm

jancivil wrote:It is not my idea of great pop music. grating, maybe. it was insanely ubiquitous at that time.

Super-curious now. What's your idea of great pop music? Got links?

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:11 pm

Jace-BeOS wrote:Read the lyrics on Google Play (whatever that is) and realized I hadn't been aware that song had so many words in it, ha ha... As well as so many references to other musicians and music. I guess it was always just a chorus and 'overplayed classic" radio song to me. I didn't pay much attention. The more catchy a thing is, the more it gets played, the more it risks my active disinterest (or ire).

Sometimes catchy music gets lodged in my head, repeating over and over... makes me a bit wonky... especially if it sounds cheery (getting a They might Be Giants song stuck in my head like that can be particularly agonizing, and I LIKE them).

Hahaha. You are allergic to overexposure and "too catchy"? Because suits (and masons) would be involved?

xoxos · Post by **xoxos** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 7:02 pm

to the levy but they f**ked me there too, the good ol boys were selling samples and perpetuating dependency instead of enabling, and people were basically concerned with their own shit and west papua? who gives a f**k, we're selling some bullshit synths never even mind the global satellite redaction but we're back to saint francis e. because crazy people babble and get so fuckign rude i wonder why

https://xoxos.bandcamp.com/album/dope-beats-for-suckers

trimph1 · Post by **trimph1** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:43 pm

xoxos wrote:to the levy but they f**ked me there too, the good ol boys were selling samples and perpetuating dependency instead of enabling, and people were basically concerned with their own shit and west papua? who gives a f**k, we're selling some bullshit synths never even mind the global satellite redaction but we're back to saint francis e. because crazy people babble and get so fuckign rude i wonder why

https://xoxos.bandcamp.com/album/dope-beats-for-suckers

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Thu Nov 12, 2015 8:49 pm

Oooops I guess I've unintentionally offended one of my idols. Sorry. I was actually agreeing with Jace there, if he has disdain for suits, that is. Still a fan of that blewm whatchamacallit though. Seems like it could be a great software for chaos music.

incubus · Post by **incubus** » Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:16 pm

I like the right to work part myself. Pretty much shows the retardation of the idea going on well over 50 years.

Otherworldly · Post by **Otherworldly** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 8:56 am

Pop is most liked trends (various styles),
Far more difficult to start a new trend (Pop),
Either way, writing a hit song (that contains fantastic hooks) is easier said then done.

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 7:04 pm

Otherworldly wrote:Pop is most liked trends (various styles),
Far more difficult to start a new trend (Pop),
Either way, writing a hit song (that contains fantastic hooks) is easier said then done.

I agree. I bet pop music is the hardest to succeed at because, besides mastering the art of hooks, the pressure to have massive success is probably (and I emphasize "probably") much greater than any other genre.

On something perhaps unrelated to the topic... hey I bet you are American. I am guessing it's the only country that uses the word "then" for "than". I'm not one to criticise grammar (and I'm not) because I'm superfaulty at it and I may be even wrong about your possible misuse of the word "then" but I would like to know what's happening.

I guess then could work for than if then means "subsequently". But isn't the phrase "easier said than done" a famous one as opposed to "easier said then done"?

But if you are indeed American then maybe your use of the word "then" is what gave it away. Yes, you are American? Then is it a middle America thingy or east/west coast thingy? Okay then. I'm not being being anal. I'm just curious. I like to learn.

Otherworldly · Post by **Otherworldly** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 9:00 pm

harryupbabble wrote:
Otherworldly wrote:Pop is most liked trends (various styles),
Far more difficult to start a new trend (Pop),
Either way, writing a hit song (that contains fantastic hooks) is easier said then done.
I agree. I bet pop music is the hardest to succeed at because, besides mastering the art of hooks, the pressure to have massive success is probably (and I emphasize "probably") much greater than any other genre.

On something perhaps unrelated to the topic... hey I bet you are American. I am guessing it's the only country that uses the word "then" for "than". I'm not one to criticise grammar (and I'm not) because I'm superfaulty at it and I may be even wrong about your possible misuse of the word "then" but I would like to know what's happening.

I guess then could work for than if then means "subsequently". But isn't the phrase "easier said than done" a famous one as opposed to "easier said then done"?

But if you are indeed American then maybe your use of the word "then" is what gave it away. Yes, you are American? Then is it a middle America thingy or east/west coast thingy? Okay then. I'm not being being anal. I'm just curious. I like to learn.

My wife is American, I'm Australian. . . oh well, it looks like I have been assimilated, resistance is futile

Oh yeah baby

I was on the phone to my brother the other day, we talked about mobile phones. . . Arghhhh its cell phone, Cell Phone.

I know a friend in the UK who is an English teacher and musician who cannot write lyrics. That's because words (or just one word) regarding how it sounds can either make or break a song. Lyrics don't always have to make sense, and words can be made up. That's certainly one way to start to a new trend, I consider lyrics as key important regarding hooks i.e. chorus. And as for forums, I see typos and grammar errors every day. . . not worth beating oneself up over it, it's all irrelevant unless the message is misunderstood.

jancivil · Post by **jancivil** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 10:15 pm

harryupbabble wrote: hey I bet you are American. I am guessing it's the only country that uses the word "then" for "than". I'm not one to criticise grammar (and I'm not) because I'm superfaulty at it and I may be even wrong about your possible misuse of the word "then" but I would like to know what's happening.

I guess then could work for than if then means "subsequently". But isn't the phrase "easier said than done" a famous one as opposed to "easier said then done"?

But if you are indeed American then maybe your use of the word "then" is what gave it away. Yes, you are American? Then is it a middle America thingy or east/west coast thingy? Okay then. I'm not being being anal. I'm just curious. I like to learn.

It's not a grammar problem, it's the wrong f**king word. It might be a typo. "I bet you are American" is just snark, who are you kidding with this "I'm just curious" business. You do this one a lot.

harryupbabble · Post by **harryupbabble** » Mon Nov 30, 2015 11:55 pm

jancivil wrote: It's not a grammar problem, it's the wrong f**king word. It might be a typo. "I bet you are American" is just snark, who are you kidding with this "I'm just curious" business. You do this one a lot.

Jan, I don't understand why you would think that trying to understand something or being curious or attributing something to Americans that may be true amounts to snark (snide remark). At the moment I am interested in the English language and trying to better myself at it. And that includes learning word origins and misuse.

In the past, I've seen this (possible) misuse of the word "then" a lot at YouTube and at the time I was almost pretty sure it mostly always was by Americans. Again, it happens a lot. It can't be a typo. The two words obviously sound different like "da" and "de". I was genuinely curious why mostly Americans (if they are definitely Americans) seem to be doing it. And what decade did this start happening? It's like, kinda like, trying to trace patient zero of the AIDS virus?

It's all just interesting to me... like why the Brits call their buddies or guy friends "mate". Gonna Google that later. Anyways, back to then, Google didn't seem to provide the answers. My search words were "than rather than then Americans".

What Is Pop Music?