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T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:12 pm

ghettosynth wrote: Dude you just completely ignored my very clear point. Two UNIQUE performances of smoke on the water are BY DEFINITION unique, and in almost every case, not original. So, originality requires more than uniqueness, QED! Choosing to play nothing for four minutes and thirty three seconds, on the other hand, contains absolutely no unique musical elements, but is distinctly original.

I don't agree. No, Sir! Those performances of smoke on the water can certainly contain originality, as can the DJ remix of both of them. Playing nothing for four minutes and thirty three seconds is as original as playing nothing for any other amount of time.
I like discussing this because you have interesting ideas. You on the other hand just want a yesboy.

Jace-BeOS · Post by **Jace-BeOS** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:15 pm

ghettosynth wrote:
Jace-BeOS wrote:But is that the most widely understood meaning of the term "DJ"? I've encountered plenty record player players but none who make an art out of mixing playback.
What is the most understood meaning of the term "artist?" What is the goal here? The most "widely" understood definition of a word isn't necessarily the correct definition. That said, the DJ community, such as it is, has a fairly long and developed history and, among that community, it is viewed as an art form in that sense. Yes there's a spectrum, as there is a spectrum in every other music sub-culture.

Without knowing who you're talking about, I can't really say much more than that. But, generally, when people make statements like that, see Henry Rollins, further discussion usually reveals that they are coming from a perspective from outside of the community. In some sense, it reveals a similar distortion of value as prospector theory; people tend to overvalue originality in their own favorite forms of artwork and undervalue originality in other forms. How many times have you heard someone criticize abstract art as something that they do when they spill paint?

I'm not far from being that someone.

All good points.

I personally prefer the "correct" definitions of words, by the way, it's just that people like me aren't shaping language.

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:22 pm

I'm trying to find the point of this thread, if there is one

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:23 pm

Ghettoboy likes correct definitions a lot, and if you don't agree with them, then you're just not open to other ideas (his correct ones of course).

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:25 pm

DJ Warmonger wrote:I'm trying to find the point of this thread, if there is one

The exchange of ideas within the given context 'should' be the point of this thread. Isn't that the point of many threads?

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:29 pm

To me it sounds like none of contributors knows DJing or ever been to an event with skilled DJ. Difficult to discuss the colors with the blind.

Aloysius · Post by **Aloysius** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:32 pm

If Jockeys ride horses, what do Disk Jockeys do?

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:34 pm

DJ Warmonger wrote:To me it sounds like none of contributors knows DJing or ever been to an event with skilled DJ. Difficult to discuss the colors with blind.

I have, multiple times, and all kind of DJ's. So what's your point now?

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:36 pm

Aloysius wrote:If Jockeys ride horses, what do Disk Jockeys do?

(replace space ship debris with a giant record)

DJ Warmonger · Post by **DJ Warmonger** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:39 pm

If Jockeys ride horses, what do Disk Jockeys do?

"Disc jokey" is such an outdated word. Modern DJ gear today doesn't even support disks of any kind, only pendrives or plays directly from laptop library.

The real issue is that no one knows how the gear works or what DJ is doing at all, people only hear the outcome. Then there is also performance part, which has nothing to do with music but apparently is the only thing wide audience cares about.

I have, multiple times, and all kind of DJ's

Oh, good for you

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:55 pm

Aloysius wrote:If Jockeys ride horses, what do Disk Jockeys do?

Would a jockey win the race without the horse?

ere2learn · Post by **ere2learn** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 12:58 pm

T-CM11 · Post by **T-CM11** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:01 pm

AnX wrote:
Aloysius wrote:If Jockeys ride horses, what do Disk Jockeys do?
Would a jockey win the race without the horse?

Ask them... here: http://www.fatjockey.com/forum/forumdis ... cing-Forum

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:05 pm

T-CM11 wrote:
AnX wrote:
Aloysius wrote:If Jockeys ride horses, what do Disk Jockeys do?
Would a jockey win the race without the horse?
Ask them... here: http://www.fatjockey.com/forum/forumdis ... cing-Forum

It was clearly a rhetorical question.

ghettosynth · Post by **ghettosynth** » Fri Dec 25, 2015 1:22 pm

DJ Warmonger wrote:To me it sounds like none of contributors knows DJing or ever been to an event with skilled DJ. Difficult to discuss the colors with the blind.

Pretty much.

DJs, disk jockeys, etc [split from Women in the music industry]