One Synth Challenge #93: OBXD by DiscoDSP & 2DaT (mmGhost Wins!)

[wagtunes]

For more control on the kick, I suggest experimenting with automating the oscillator pitch/frequency parameter directly on the host level. This way you have much more control on the shape of the slope and can sculpt all kinds of different kick characteristics without battling available envelopes. A basic shape with just linear ramps and a couple of points:



Tweak the filter, amp decay and other parameters to your liking, maybe tighten the attack by compressing to taste, and you'll arrive at quite a consistent and familiar sounding pounding

http://lunarladder.kuutikkaat.net/kick_osc93_a.mp3

Double that on another channel and make it a short attack version of the kick, still using similar frequency automation in your host:

http://lunarladder.kuutikkaat.net/kick_osc93_b.mp3

Together they sound like this:

http://lunarladder.kuutikkaat.net/kick_osc93_c.mp3

You're good to go, experimenting further and doing some vintage psy or whatever

http://lunarladder.kuutikkaat.net/kick_osc93_d.mp3

Thanks, but I have absolutely no idea how to do this in my DAW.

[Guenon]

Ah, no it's just basic parameter automation, nothing fancy. If you know how to choose a synth parameter in your DAW and draw an automation envelope for it, that's exactly what this is. It's the oscillator pitch parameter, controlled with the above envelope shape. See what that yields and tweak it further

[Daru925]

I noticed that automating with DAWS is slower/faster depending of the synths/daw. Like with charlatan/fm8 and ableton, i get super plucky sounding enveloppes, but with massive or even newer synth, the automation is kind of smoothed out, and i cannot get sharp changes in parameters.
Is it because the signal flow is more complex in those synths?
Thats one reason i like synth with mseg.
With that said, I suppose it works well with obxd if you made the picture.

[Guenon]

With that said, I suppose it works well with obxd if you made the picture.

Yeah, this was specific advice for this synth, as it seems to work very nicely . The more a synth smooths out the received automation data, the more it's unsuitable for this sort of technique, as the initial pitch drop needs to be fast enough to have that percussive characteristic.

[ontrackp]

Thanks, but I have absolutely no idea how to do this in my DAW.

I suggest you take about 1 minute of the 100 hours you plan to spend on this contest and learn how to automate synth parameters with midi. Or you could ask the group if anyone else uses the same DAW that you do and they could probably explain how to do it easily.

[wagtunes]

Thanks, but I have absolutely no idea how to do this in my DAW.

I suggest you take about 1 minute of the 100 hours you plan to spend on this contest and learn how to automate synth parameters with midi. Or you could ask the group if anyone else uses the same DAW that you do and they could probably explain how to do it easily.

Done. Found the setup. Now, what's the CC MIDI for pitch control? Because pitch is not labeled.

[z.prime]

Done. Found the setup. Now, what's the CC MIDI for pitch control? Because pitch is not labeled.

I think someone misspoke. You just need to automate VST parameters, not MIDI parameters. The Osc2Pitch should show up in the VST parameter list.

[z.prime]

3 minute youtube tutorial for cubase (it's like 15 seconds that actually shows all you need to know to accomplish this):

[z.prime]

Adding automation to your mixes of the right parameters is the difference between a bland mix and a mix that keeps the listener interested. For example, automating the decay time of a filter envelope, making it increasingly longer is a common one to go from quieter stabby sounds to longer fuller, louder. Plenty of other things to automate.

If you take Guenon's approach for the kick, I suggest you automate the pitch of OSC 2 and drop the level of OSC 1 to zero. This way you can ALSO add some pitch envelope from the filter envelope to OSC 2 to get things even more punchy or tweak the decay a bit. Also, make sure to deselect saw and square waves.

[wagtunes]

3 (it's like 15 seconds that actually shows all you need to know to accomplish this) minute youtube tutorial for cubase:

Cubase 5. I'm on Cubase 7. Nothing is the same. In addition to that, he's going to fast for me to follow what he's doing.

But it's okay, I have at least a clue what I'm looking for now and I'll eventually figure it out or not. Whatever. Don't really care at this point.

[Guenon]

the horse is in the details.

[wagtunes]

the horse is in the details.

Thanks. That's really helpful.

[Guenon]

Thanks. That's really helpful.

You're welcome!

[wagtunes]

3 minute youtube tutorial for cubase (it's like 15 seconds that actually shows all you need to know to accomplish this):

Okay, I have watched this video 3 times now. I have even slowed it down and stopped it at each relevant section. The layout between Cubase 5 and Cubase 7 is so different that THIS particular procedure no longer applies. I can't do the steps he does. So there has to be a different way to do it in Cubase 7.

Bottom Line: I cannot follow this. I'm sorry. I can't do it.

[z.prime]

Here's an explanation of automation from Steinberg for Cubase 7. There's some extra topics, but just pay attention to the automation section: