So, will you, or have you bought Sylenth1?

[fluffy_little_something]

Regarding the plucks, have you tried adapting the oscillator phase via the matrix in Dune? It might not have to do with the envelopes after all.
Conversely, you can mess up a pluck in Sylenth1 as well by setting the osc to retrigger and trying various phase settings.
The best phase setting varies with the key, so you might have to set up a key -> phase modulation so that the pluck is plucky across the keyboard.

[Lejurai]

Made some couple of hour comparison with few synths this evening. I liked the most... "drum fill".. Dmitry Sches Diversion.
Funny since I don't use it much (may be because of the cpu usage in unison). It's so sharp, clean (in a good way) and punchy that it blew other synths out from the water.

I really liked other synths too (especially Serum and Synthmaster) and they definitely will have their use but Diversion just has something heart warming <3

(that few)
Diversion
Synthmaster
Serum
Dune2
Wiggle
Predator2

[egbert101]

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[fluffy_little_something]

Uninstalled the demo of Diversion today.
Sound is pretty good, but not as good as the incredible CPU load might imply. It doesn't sound 5x as good as other synths.
But my biggest problem was the GUI, just way too small and of poor contrast. The markers on the knob heads are all but invisible to me. The display a joke. He should give his synth a scalable GUI like Sylenth1's.

[chk071]

Uninstalled the demo of Diversion today.
Sound is pretty good, but not as good as the incredible CPU load might imply. It doesn't sound 5x as good as other synths.

Was also my biggest gripe about it. The filters sound incredible though. Unfortunately, last time i tried it, a simple sine wave without unison, fx or anything already took a big amount of CPU. Definitely one of the neglected synths in my arsenal though, surely should spend more time with it.

Regarding the plucks: Yeah, of course phase retrigger gets you a even more plucky sound, but, usually, my "test" with new synths is to make a pluck sound with free running oscillators, almost fully closed filter, and about 40-50 % envelope decay, and low sustain, to hear how plucky the synth can get. On Spire, i actually prefer the more linear envelope curves, because it tends to sound a bit weird with the exponential curve, although that, of course, can lead to a more plucky sound, but, it tends to sound a bit artificial then, while with the more "linear" curves (i don't think they ARE linear actually, just not as concave) sound more natural to me. IMO, the sound you get from filter envelopes differ from synth to synth. Sylenth1 also sounds slightly different to Spire in that regard, and other synths too. I have no idea what it is, technically, that the envelopes vary from synth to synth, and what makes them sound they way they do.

[egbert101]

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[EnGee]

I bought Sylenth1 and I love it! I was shocked how I like it and how easily inspired by it!

I like it more than Hive and more than Predator. It can replace them and some other synths as well. But it won't be the do it all synth. I'll use beside it NI and Reaktor synths. Monark and LuSH sound more analogue so Sylenth1 fits perfectly for about 75% of the sounds I need it's a great synth, I regret not buying it in the past.

[lolilol1975]

because i trashed Dune 2 a few times here, i gave it some more time this afternoon, and played a bit more in-depth with it, and must say that, even though i'm still not sure about the general character, those filters are surely something. At least, i would say, for 95 €, as it costs now in the sale, it offers much more value for money.

95€ ? Damn that's the best Dune 2 sale ever. Almost half price. I bought it $129 on sale ($189 full price if I remember).

As for S1, never had a use for it.

[recursive one]

There is something about Sylenth unison, envelopes, filters (unless high resonance is used) and LFOs, they just sound "right", very organic. I think by the end of 2016 all this is possible to have elsewhere but since Sylenth was one of the two synths I've bought first when I started making music I'm still keeping it and use it in every track (btw., the other one was Zebra which I stopped using a while back cause I never really liked its sound). When I work ITB my to-go synth for almost everything is Spire but I still prefer Sylenth for certain sounds which are techncially doable in Spire. On the other hand, its distortion mostly sounds bad, other effects are so-so, the resonance is prone to generating some whistling artifacts (but it is not always a bad thing - Arp 303 Saw, lol!).

I think the logical evolution from Sylenth must be Rapid, not Dune2, it shares certain important sonic qualities with Sylenth while offering much more features, basically it's like Sylenth has swallowed Massive It is very moderate on CPU, though I wish in certain cases it used more resources to generate more accurate sound.

Diversion is another kind of synth, what sets it apart is very detailed and controllable top end, incredibly good filters and unique oscillator fetaures, I wouldn't use it as a workhorse synth for bread and butter sounds but when I feel like expreimenting I load it first.

[DJ Warmonger]

Sylenth1 is a bread and butter. Now with a number of workhorse synth I rarely use it, though it's still great beginner / learning synth and can sound awesome. Not to mention low CPU usage.

[Elektronisch]

Buy, sell, buy again, sell again just to keep it. Its very typical in KVR. Whats with such behaviour? i do get when you sell it but then buying again? And sometimes even then selling

I got S1 in summer. Didnt made any sounds just used to open a project of artists ive worked with. In other words for compatibility.

If you dont really need it dont buy it.

Sometimes people need money. Choices are made about what to keep and what to part with. I hope you completely understand that first hand for yourself some day.

Indeed, but taking in to concideration majority of people are from west "world" where economy is pretty strong, the amount of 99 eu/dollars is actually a small money, because you can make that in couple of days, in some countries where average payment is like 2.4k eu a month, so you make 100 eu in 1 day or 1 licence of Dune 2 on sale or 1 licence (incl) of Sylenth1 on sale and to sell so later you can buy again same copy its just a bit unlogical. My first thought would be instead of selling "i need to find a way to make more money instead so i could support my hobby"

[e@rs]

100 EUR (have to pay VAT too) for Sylenth1 wasn't an attractive price for me.

Instead I upgraded to DUNE 2 for 39 EUR.

[recursive one]

Indeed, but taking in to concideration majority of people are from west "world" where economy is pretty strong

What makes you think so?

E.g. in my city (second largest in my country) the average payment per month is roughly equal to Omnisphere license + Zebra license.

[Coockie1176ln]

To say something bad about sylenth1 i would say unison. Sounds great in stereo, really good. But flip sound to mono by audition mono from your daw the volume drops like crazy. But thats becuase i feel like stereo width 100 percent is creating to much of a phasing issues because the side gets louder then mid. There are synths that sound as wide in unison and almost as loud in mono. Less phasing issues.

[Synthman2000]

Yes, I bought it years and years ago and it still holds up in terms of sound quality. Old yet Gold.

Good design and sound quality never gets old.