Cytomic "The Scream" stomp box distortion plugin
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- KVRist
- 487 posts since 19 Jan, 2003
Description sounds great, CPU usage sounds reasonable to me, instant buy for the price. Would also like to see models of other distortions if you feel there are others worth recreating.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2817 posts since 3 Dec, 2008
I'd be happy to look at the schematic, do you have a link?Chandlerhimself wrote:Another good mod would be a mix knob. The sparkle drive pedal uses this. IMO the more mods the better. There are tons of free TS plugins and I bought a clone for $25 years ago that sounds great. I'd like to see something new that doesn't already exists in the plugin world. The Xotic BBpre is a great pedal that is based on the TS, but I don't think anyone has modeled it yet. I think it is just a TS with a Baxandall tone stack, so perhaps it would be easy to make if the TS is almost finished. Perhaps make it a separate pedal and sell both the TS and the BBpre as a bundle. I'd be interested in that.
The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2817 posts since 3 Dec, 2008
The ProCo RAT is actually an easier distortion to model and wouldn't take much time after I've finished The Scream. In the future I'll be happy to model more obscure stuff as well, but I figure it's best to nail the sound of the big well known stomps to establish brand confidence.bmanic wrote:Especially the guitar world is full of these smaller projects. I'd love a really good emulation of the ProCo RAT. Also, why not some more obscure, random schematics you find around the net? There are tons of interesting DIY projects of small scale that may very well translate into interesting digital models.
If you have a framework ready and can churn out small plugins relatively quickly and price them low then I'm almost 100% sure you'll be expanding your core business quite significantly.
The Glue, The Drop, The Scream - www.cytomic.com
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- KVRist
- 484 posts since 15 Jan, 2009
Dude...I love this focus on sound quality over CPU use. I'd rather bounce files that are top notch quality than have real time playback with compromised sonics.andy-cytomic wrote:The ProCo RAT is actually an easier distortion to model and wouldn't take much time after I've finished The Scream. In the future I'll be happy to model more obscure stuff as well, but I figure it's best to nail the sound of the big well known stomps to establish brand confidence.
I used to run individual tracks in real time through hardware EQs/compressors so BRING IT ON!
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- KVRist
- 380 posts since 30 Aug, 2001 from Pyrlandia
i'd love Big Muff emu. preferably based on "russian" varietyandy-cytomic wrote:The ProCo RAT is actually an easier distortion to model and wouldn't take much time after I've finished The Scream. In the future I'll be happy to model more obscure stuff as well, but I figure it's best to nail the sound of the big well known stomps to establish brand confidence.
voltage starving and supply voltage biasing is super fun. Andy had you ever a chance to try EHX Germanium OD?
"Dont mistake your inability to understand how this happens for it actualy being imposible. " - nollock
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Chandlerhimself Chandlerhimself https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=318799
- KVRAF
- 1818 posts since 19 Dec, 2013 from Japan
I'm not a pedal builder, but I found these online.andy-cytomic wrote:I'd be happy to look at the schematic, do you have a link?Chandlerhimself wrote:Another good mod would be a mix knob. The sparkle drive pedal uses this. IMO the more mods the better. There are tons of free TS plugins and I bought a clone for $25 years ago that sounds great. I'd like to see something new that doesn't already exists in the plugin world. The Xotic BBpre is a great pedal that is based on the TS, but I don't think anyone has modeled it yet. I think it is just a TS with a Baxandall tone stack, so perhaps it would be easy to make if the TS is almost finished. Perhaps make it a separate pedal and sell both the TS and the BBpre as a bundle. I'd be interested in that.
http://effectslayouts.blogspot.jp/2016/ ... reamp.html
http://tagboardeffects.blogspot.jp/2012 ... reamp.html
Those links have info on other pedals too. I understand the reasoning behind starting with a TS, however I hope you add some mods to it and keep developing various drive/distortion pedals.
Here is a demo of the sparkle drive(this is a newer version) I was talking about before.
This has different modes, but I think that could be done with the fat, boost, etc mods you mentioned above. Something like that would be great.I think it would make a lot of people like me are a bit bored with TS pedal plugins interested. With features like that I'd definitely purchase it.
My Youtube page https://www.youtube.com/user/GuitarChandler
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- KVRAF
- 24403 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
I'll first be checking out Kazrog's Stockholm TS808 emulation... I just know he's gonna nail it
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GrabtharsHammer GrabtharsHammer https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=377531
- KVRian
- 543 posts since 7 Apr, 2016 from Bünde, Germany
me tooEvilDragon wrote:I'll first be checking out Kazrog's Stockholm TS808 emulation... I just know he's gonna nail it
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- KVRian
- 751 posts since 22 Aug, 2002 from on the inside looking out
I am interested in any plugin you create because you sweat the details:
andy-cytomic wrote:None of the models I've tried sound right, they all have major flaws including but not limited to:
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- KVRAF
- 24403 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
Does it matter if it still sounds great on my tone even if it's off by whatever?andy-cytomic wrote:Have a look at the level of the 2nd harmonic (and all even order harmonics) - they are out by 20 dB to the circuit. Then try adjusting the drive knob, the second order harmonics should lower as you lower the drive knob.
Just poking a bit of fun. Love your stuff otherwise.
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- KVRist
- 258 posts since 8 Jun, 2016
Hi Andy. I think it's a great idea to develop guitar pedals, as guitar players are "teached" to have lots of different gear, compared to other instrument players. And, are also "teached" to be die hard followers in a sense of "brand" once they enjoy the brand.
That means, if ur products succeeds in hype, the sales might be worthy. And, between projects, u can always develop a "simple" plugin for guitar, tremolo, delays etc
as for the price of USD 29, I'd be ok if exceptional quality, add on functions (mix knob, versions or mods of rats, sd-1, etc, and input output level), and a bigger discount (bigger than 30%) for ur next pedals plugins releases (u did mention price basis, so that's why I'm mentioning this, as, ur competitors when u bundle or they are on sales, USD 29 is steepy in my understanding).
I'd be very interested, and would possibly buy BOSS SD-1, BOSS BD-2, RAT, tubescreamer, fuzz face, big muff, DS-1. Would pay a premium for a spring reverb (the one I like the best so far is PSP's).
fyr, I did try most of plugins mentioned here. I avoid anything made by ik and bias. I also find mercurial version one of the best, if not the best. I really dig PA amp simulations but not their pedals.
all that said, the glue is my favorite compressor plugin. good luck on this new project.
That means, if ur products succeeds in hype, the sales might be worthy. And, between projects, u can always develop a "simple" plugin for guitar, tremolo, delays etc
as for the price of USD 29, I'd be ok if exceptional quality, add on functions (mix knob, versions or mods of rats, sd-1, etc, and input output level), and a bigger discount (bigger than 30%) for ur next pedals plugins releases (u did mention price basis, so that's why I'm mentioning this, as, ur competitors when u bundle or they are on sales, USD 29 is steepy in my understanding).
I'd be very interested, and would possibly buy BOSS SD-1, BOSS BD-2, RAT, tubescreamer, fuzz face, big muff, DS-1. Would pay a premium for a spring reverb (the one I like the best so far is PSP's).
fyr, I did try most of plugins mentioned here. I avoid anything made by ik and bias. I also find mercurial version one of the best, if not the best. I really dig PA amp simulations but not their pedals.
all that said, the glue is my favorite compressor plugin. good luck on this new project.
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- Banned
- 10729 posts since 17 Nov, 2015
EvilDragon wrote:Does it matter if it still sounds great on my tone even if it's off by whatever?andy-cytomic wrote:Have a look at the level of the 2nd harmonic (and all even order harmonics) - they are out by 20 dB to the circuit. Then try adjusting the drive knob, the second order harmonics should lower as you lower the drive knob.
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If Urs had said that, you would agree with him...
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hesnotthemessiah hesnotthemessiah https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7516 - KVRian
- 986 posts since 6 Jun, 2003 from Reading UK. (U rrrrrrs)
Definite buy for me at that priceandy-cytomic wrote:First up, this level of detail currently takes around 10% average 14% peak cpu of a single core of my i7 laptop when running at 88.2/96 kHz, is this level of cpu load acceptable for everyone? Also I was thinking of pricing it at USD 29, how does that sound?
. I don't play guitar - or keys for that matter 
but love using fx like this for dirtying up drums and synths. I got loads of spare CPU so bring it on!!Windows 10. Asus X99-Pro i7 6950X 10 Core 3GHz (Overclocked to 3.5GHz). Corsair DDR4 64GB Vengeance LPX 2400MHz. RME RayDAT. NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970. UAD2 Quad+Octo. Reaper. A couple of plugins.