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Har · Post by **Har** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:48 pm

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Resonance:
Please tell me why it was so cool??? And I mean no disrespect... I really want to know why people think it's such a great flick...<hr /></blockquote>I do admit it's kind of hard to explain...if yoyu just watch the movie, it does seem rather obtuse... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="smile.gif" />

Might help to read the various books/stories that it was based on by Arthur C. Clarke:

* "The Sentinal"
the original short story it was based on

* "Childhood's End"
also considered part of the formula...rumor is that this will be a movie soon as well

* The actual book "2001: A Space Odyssey", which Clarke actually wrote after the movie came out.

* "The Lost Worlds of 2001"
This book is hard to find, but actually explains a LOT of the whole process of how the story for the movie developed, including several alternative endings and much the underlying story that never really got explained in the film

Resonance · Post by **Resonance** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:50 pm

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Har:
* "The Lost Worlds of 2001"
This book is hard to find, but actually explains a LOT of the whole process of how the story for the movie developed, including several alternative endings and much the underlying story that never really got explained in the film[/QB]<hr /></blockquote>LOL!!!

Maybe that's what I was missing... A bloody story!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> (especially one that never got explained - DOH!!!)

Res

vbfischer · Post by **vbfischer** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:51 pm

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Sascha Franck:
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* RoboCop
<hr /></blockquote>Ugh!!!!!!!!!! This certainly is on my list of the worst shit I've ever seen <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="eek.gif" />

Sascha<hr /></blockquote>You gotta watch it with a particular frame of mind. Just like Starship Troopers (same director, very loosely based on the book by Robert Heinlen). They are meant to be satirical.

Ford Prefect · Post by **Ford Prefect** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:52 pm

Alot of the one's Har listed are some of my faves too. Here we go:

Bladerunner, Forbidden Planet, War of the Worlds, The Day the Earth Stood Still, Invasion of the Bodysnatchers, Hardware, The Toxic Avenger(and the other spinoffs)Brazil, Soylent Green, Fantastic Voyage, THX1138, 4,5, and 6 of Star Wars, the very first Star Trek movie, all the Planet of the Apes, Buck Rogers, 2001, 2010, Naked Lunch(I'd count that as S.F.), Ice Pirates, Dune, and others I can't immediately recall.

Of more recent stuff: Dark City, Fifth Element, Stargate, the Matrix, PI(does that count?)...

Of TV series': Twilight Zone, Night Gallery, Star Trek(original, nex gen, and DS9), Red Dwarf, Dr. Who, My Favorite Martian, 6Million Dollar Man, Bionic Woman, Lost in Space, Land of the Lost, Wonder Woman, Battlestar Gallactica, and on and on... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="tongue.gif" />

[ 09 August 2002, 15:48: Message edited by: Ford Prefect ]

Har · Post by **Har** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:53 pm

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bryce FIscher:
You gotta watch it with a particular frame of mind. Just like Starship Troopers (same director, very loosely based on the book by Robert Heinlen). They are meant to be satirical.<hr /></blockquote>Heh, my biggest problem with "Starship Troopers" was....well...."Doogie Houser" in outer space....LOL
I just couldn't stop laughing once I saw that... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

Resonance · Post by **Resonance** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 6:57 pm

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Har:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Bryce FIscher:
You gotta watch it with a particular frame of mind. Just like Starship Troopers (same director, very loosely based on the book by Robert Heinlen). They are meant to be satirical.<hr /></blockquote>Heh, my biggest problem with "Starship Troopers" was....well...."Doogie Houser" in outer space....LOL
I just couldn't stop laughing once I saw that... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>LOL!

Especially Doogie playing such a bad-ass character!!! I was waiting for that familiar FM Piano to start playing the whole time... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

Res

Scot Solida · Post by **Scot Solida** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:00 pm

Oooooooh, my kind of thread!

In no particular order, here are the ones that come to mind immediately:

1. Brazil (yes, a Science Fiction film in the truest sense)

2. Blade Runner (duh!)

3. 2001 A Space Oddysey (put the "science" in the Science Fiction film)

4. When Worlds Collide, War Of The Worlds (me too, Har. George Pal was the BEST. Though my favorite Pal movie was "The Seven Faces Of Dr. Lao", not specifically SF)

5. Silent Running (the science was a bit too mucked up, but the human story makes it one of the best)

6. The Day The Earth Stood Still

7. A Boy And His Dog (the closest we may EVER get to seeing Ellison brought to screen. Unless you count Terminator, and that was not an authorised adaption)

8. The Lathe Of Heaven (does everything a good science fiction story ought to do)

9. Charlie (based on the Hugo Award winning story "Flowers For Algernon". Watch it again. It is PURE SF)

10. Alien (Ridley Scott used to say he wanted to be "The John Ford of Science Fiction films". With this and Blade Runner he almost made it, but sadly abandonded SF for mainstream fare. Still, he's a genius in or out of the genre)

There are dozens of others, including Escape From New York, Dark Star, The Man Who Fell To Earth (anyone read Walter Tevis' other stuff? "Mockingbird" will break the coldest of hearts), Seconds with Rock Hudson, Forbidden Planet, This Island Earth, Dr. Cyclops, Things to Come, Metropolis, Solaris, First Men In The Moon, the Quatermass series (both tv and film), and I would be remiss if I didn't mention The Rocky Horror Picture Show, if for nothing else, it's LOVE of science fiction.

Fun thread.

By the way, my vote for the WORST SF film of all time is "Independence Day". What a load of dreck. That thing had more logic and continuity gaffs than Plan Nine From Outer Space.

Har · Post by **Har** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:07 pm

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Scot Solida:
By the way, my vote for the WORST SF film of all time is "Independence Day". What a load of dreck. That thing had more logic and continuity gaffs than Plan Nine From Outer Space.<hr /></blockquote>AMEN to that....what an absolute atrocity (not to mention a total rip-off of "War Of The Worlds")!

I forgot "Silent Running" and "Charlie"...possible two of the saddest films I've ever seen ("Flowers for Algernon" was posibly one of the saddest stories, as well)...poor Huey, Dewy and Lewey.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />

Scot Solida · Post by **Scot Solida** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:11 pm

Ooh, two more posts and I hit "700"! So, I'll add "Terminator 2" to my list, because it's LOADS of fun. Anyone not one the edge of their seat during this one? Yeah, so the first one was a rippoff of Harlan Ellison, but both were excellent flicks (even Mr. Ellison thinks so).

Scot Solida · Post by **Scot Solida** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:12 pm

700!!!!

And OMG!!!!! How on the Scorched Earth could I have forgotten Ralph Bakshi's "Wizards"???!?!?!?

God I love that movie.

Dottie · Post by **Dottie** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:13 pm

Zardoz!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

Har · Post by **Har** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:17 pm

Hooo-hah! Scot hits the big seven-oh-oh! Congrats, dude! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="biggrin.gif" />

Wow....I forgot all about Zardoz!! That was a ton of fun (in a somewhat unintentional way, I think)!

Trojan Badger · Post by **Trojan Badger** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:19 pm

Spaceballs, Mars Attacks, Amazon women from the Moon, Dude where's my car, the Phantom Menace, Blake's 7

So bad it's...well, you laugh at all the wrong bits

OK, seriously, Dark Star, Dark City, 5th Element, Blade Runner, all terribly predictable I'm afraid...

choochcat · Post by **choochcat** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:19 pm

Gotta be THX 1138- sampled that forwards backwards sideways.
Also have a sneaking old smouldering love for 'Logan's Run'. Even with the lame dialogue.
'12 Monkeys' is the best of the recent crop by a mile. Very disturbing. Proper warped SF with none of the cheese.

Would pay big cash to see a film of PKD's 'The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch'....

Nuisances Sonores · Post by **Nuisances Sonores** » Fri Aug 09, 2002 7:22 pm

Sorry Bryce ... you seem to know more about Red Dwarf than me ; just "stumbled" on a big handful of episodes on a french cable channel ... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="redface.gif" />

Scifi fans: what is your favorite CLASSIC SF movie ?