In search of a “sort of” polyrhythmic sequencer vst

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peterdh wrote: @brainzistor: Thanks for your well documented reply, but I don't get it and don't know if Cubase can do it....

In Reaper when you insert MIDI item and go into piano roll the only thing you need to do is to drag the right edge of piano roll and that way to set the length of your clip/pattern:

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That way you determine in what time signature your clip/pattern is.
In this case I've set it to 5/4. That's ALL you need to do, at least that's how things work in Reaper,
while in FL Studio you would set the marker.

Doing the same thing, you make clips/patterns in 3/4, 5/4, 4/4, 7/8, 9/8, etc. time signatures:

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I'm 100% sure that things in Cubase are not more complex than this.


I don't understand what's there not to get it, polyrhythm is having two time signatures playing at the same time.
If you place one clip in DAW's playlist that is in 5/4 and the other clip below it in 9/8 time signature, that's polyrhythm.

I may be wrong, but it seems to me that you don't understand the basics of rhythms because if you did you would be searching info how to do polyrhythms in Cubase, to learn your DAW, but instead you are searching for some 3rd party software to do the job for you because you are not sure what stuff you should be asking or searching in the first place.

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Posted a question on the MuTools forum on KVR:
peterdh wrote:Hi MuTools. This is my recent topic on KVR viewtopic.php?f=1&t=488180 . I am searching for an euclidean sequencer vst. Someone recommended me your Mulab Mux sequencer. Is this euclidean? Does this work the way Michael L posted (see quote) about the sequencer in MuLab?
Michael L wrote:...Similarly, in MuLab I can divide a bar into any number of beats (2, 3, 4... 11, 12, 13 or no grid at all), and each sequence can be different. I can play different patterns in a rhythm, and then quantize them to the grid. Personally, I prefer this hands-on approach over a plugin...
mutools wrote:Indeed in MuLab / MUX Modular, each sequence can have its own loop. And each sequence can also use its own grid. And you can make your own grids eg 1 step per beat, 2 steps per beat, 3 steps per beat, and so on. So, without having tried it myself, i assume you can indeed do what you want. Best is to try it out. There are free/demo versions of both MuLab and MUX Modular VST on MuTools.com
Going to try the demo of MUX in the weekend :)

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brainzistor wrote:...I don't understand what's there not to get it...
Probably got it now. Testing it tomorrow...

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Problem solved! :) Cubase can do euclidean sequences. Didn't know Cubase also time stretches midi. Thanks brainzistor :tu:

Here is a short tutorial:

I want to create a 7th euclidean (evenly spaced in 1 bar) sequence. First I create a bar with 1/8 quantize and cut the bar at the position of the last 1/8 note in the main window.

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Now I draw 7 1/8 notes in my key (piano roll) editor.

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Now I select the time stretch tool (drop down menu of the arrow icon) in the main window.

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Now I stretch the bar to the end of the measure.

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And here's the result in the key (piano roll) editor!

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Thanks everyone for your contributions! :)

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I use Modulys for this sort of thing, suggested previously

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Hy-Plugins has a great new sequencer called Seq Collection that is many sequencers in one. I believe polyrhythms are available. I am demoing it and it is outstanding.

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peterdh wrote:Problem solved! :) Cubase can do euclidean sequences. Didn't know Cubase also time stretches midi. Thanks brainzistor :tu:

Here is a short tutorial:

I want to create a 7th euclidean (evenly spaced in 1 bar) sequence. First I create a bar with 1/8 quantize and cut the bar at the position of the last 1/8 note in the main window.

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Now I draw 7 1/8 notes in my key (piano roll) editor.

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Now I select the time stretch tool (drop down menu of the arrow icon) in the main window.

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Now I stretch the bar to the end of the measure.

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And here's the result in the key (piano roll) editor!

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Thanks everyone for your contributions! :)
That's what I was gonna say. The "resizing applies time stretch" option is great in cubase. I use the shit out of it when scoring to picture and whatnot.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.

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These are what I have tried:
Soniccouture Konkrete, Soniccouture Box of Tricks, tried some stuff in Reaktor but not liked them. Plus nowadays realized that Arturia CMI V contains a polirythmic sequencer with restart feature.
Also tried in the past Fxpansion Tremor drum synth, that contains a polyrithmic sequencer, and speaking of synth plugins, the only one I know is Pigments, that do some kind of polyrithmic sequences.

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moon indigo wrote: Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:15 am Hy-Plugins has a great new sequencer called Seq Collection that is many sequencers in one. I believe polyrhythms are available. I am demoing it and it is outstanding.
This plugin is amazing, I use it everytime I want to have polyrhythms in my daw. 😍👍
(when I want to save time and not write everything note by note)
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