KVR Audio

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:50 am

Clearly, in any transaction involving money it's wise and prudent to ask beforehand about the business arrangements.

In another thread, I made a casual comment asking if anyone involved could tell me how payment and fulfillment would be handled. In reply, I got a polite and informative message from Ben the Camelmeister himself. He explained the arrangements, which sound to me fraud-proof.

The only ways I can think of in which this particular kind of business arrangement could go bad are (a) lots of people back out after the deadline passes, rather than before -- enough to change the discount for the remainder; or (b) someone's impersonating Ben, meaning when we send our money to Camel the real Ben will send it back with puzzled messages asking why we thought it was so cheap. Neither scenario seems terribly likely.

My conclusion: caution is essential in business. But this deal appears to meet the safety criteria of a shy, overly cautious humanoid woodland animal (me ^_^).

Meffy

torhan · Post by **torhan** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:52 am

Interest in a group buy for Atmosphere at Cake's forums has some steam.

Ben [Camel Audio] · Post by **Ben [Camel Audio]** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 11:58 am

Hi,

someone's impersonating Ben, meaning when we send our money to Camel the real Ben will send it back with puzzled messages asking why we thought it was so cheap.

I am the real Ben

This is genuine. The intention was that it was purely for people on the Logic User Group list, but we will accept payments from everyone who has signed up.

There isn't really any risk involved. The payments are being handled by ShareIt, on behalf of Camel Audio, in exactly the same way as with a normal order. The only difference is that you will get a discount based on how many people sign up. I personally make sure that everyone receives their product, and that everyone is happy. If you have difficulties, you can contact me at support<at>camelaudio<dot>com.

Thanks
Ben

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:06 pm

Ben, the mechanism is well thought out and, I hope, as convenient for you as it will be for customers.

Again, a thousand thanks for making this offer. The game theory phrase "win-win" has been misused to the point of near-meaninglessness, but in this case it's applicable: you get a great honkin' lot of sales in a batch, we get a wonderful price on one of the star dream-synths of the VST world. I'm very grateful for the opportunity.

Meffy

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:23 pm

there are two categories of naive people in the world:

the obvious one is the one who is believing nearly every story which is told. (examples of this species are rare these days)

the other one is the one who is doubting every story that is told as soon as it is a tad uncommon.
These people usually fear everyhting. They are expecting the evil in every child's eye. (examples of this species are very common nowadays)

I believe that the former has mutated to the latter.

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:30 pm

jens wrote:thanks for the warning - only it comes a bit too late - I already signed up for the Zebra group-buy and now for the Cameleon

Why do the words of the wiseman always only reach my ear when it's already too late?

Could you maybe p.m. me your e-mail adress?
- Then I could ask you for advice every time I have to do a serious decision.
It's always good to know there are wise people who we can trust and who help us finding our course trough the thorny path of life.

Thank you for your kind and helpful words, pfung!

graduate from the royal school of sarcasm

t-willy · Post by **t-willy** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 12:44 pm

hee hee hee, what a goofy ass thread

lates

t-willy

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:16 pm

spaceman wrote:
jens wrote:thanks for the warning - only it comes a bit too late - I already signed up for the Zebra group-buy and now for the Cameleon

Why do the words of the wiseman always only reach my ear when it's already too late?

Could you maybe p.m. me your e-mail adress?
- Then I could ask you for advice every time I have to do a serious decision.
It's always good to know there are wise people who we can trust and who help us finding our course trough the thorny path of life.

Thank you for your kind and helpful words, pfung!

graduate from the royal school of sarcasm

though that's still bloody amateur-shite compared to what I am at times capable of while using my native language

bastien · Post by **bastien** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:20 pm

Actually, the original post kind of reads like a Monty Python sketch - you know, that bit in 'Live of Brian' where he doesn't want to haggle.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:32 pm

bastien wrote:Actually, the original post kind of reads like a Monty Python sketch - you know, that bit in 'Live of Brian' where he doesn't want to haggle.

Here now -- I didn't come here for an argument.

Meffy
have you any Stilton?
ah -- fresh out, mate
how about some Wensleydale?
first thing next week, sure

Glooper · Post by **Glooper** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:39 pm

jens wrote:there are two categories of naive people in the world:

the obvious one is the one who is believing nearly every story which is told. (examples of this species are rare these days)

the other one is the one who is doubting every story that is told as soon as it is a tad uncommon.
These people usually fear everyhting. They are expecting the evil in every child's eye. (examples of this species are very common nowadays)

I believe that the former has mutated to the latter.

I don't believe that.

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:45 pm

Glooper wrote:I don't believe that.

:P

=O_O= Yipes! You scared me. (Everything does that.)

Meffy

jens · Post by **jens** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:45 pm

spaceman · Post by **spaceman** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 1:58 pm

jens wrote:there are two categories of naive people in the world:

the obvious one is the one who is believing nearly every story which is told. (examples of this species are rare these days)

the other one is the one who is doubting every story that is told as soon as it is a tad uncommon.
These people usually fear everyhting. They are expecting the evil in every child's eye. (examples of this species are very common nowadays)

I believe that the former has mutated to the latter.
:

no.. there's five groups of people

the f**king idiots who don't have a clue
the f**king idiots who don't have a clue but think they do
the idiots who have a clue but a highly overrated one
and the people who have a clue but can't be bothered

all the others are just idiots

Sicklecell666 · Post by **Sicklecell666** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 2:03 pm

[quote="spaceman]
no.. there's five groups of people

the f**king idiots who don't have a clue
the f**king idiots who don't have a clue but think they do
the idiots who have a clue but a highly overrated one
and the people who have a clue but can't be bothered

all the others are just idiots[/quote]

I'm too much of an idiot to have a f**king clue about what I think, but since thinking is so overrated I can't be bothered about having a clue about f**king..

Group Buy craz!?