GAS is a real pain

[sl23]

I have nothing to contribute to that discussion...!

[ATS]

I guess just a sore spot for me because I never saw it like that but did see tons of friends die from drugs

Yep, same here. Not tons but a few. Obviously there are different categories and each have their own levels of harm but psychedelics are by far the safest IMO, well below weed even. Lots more of my friends were f*cked up from that than anything else. However, none at all from LSD, DMT, mushrooms etc. That's not to say negative experiences dont exist (I know they do), just not in my own personal experience.

lol I quit weed for like 20 years now and I still dream about it, I loved that stuff. But agree technically LSD is not deadly. I couldn't imagine doing weed nowadays though because it is so freakin strong now. I can see how people could harm themselves while on LSD though, I thought I died before when I was on it. So technically I thought since I was already dead I could do anything, like fly and all.

[Mushy Mushy]

lol I quit weed for like 20 years now and I still dream about it, I loved that stuff. But agree technically LSD is not deadly. I couldn't imagine doing weed nowadays though because it is so freakin strong now. II can see how people could harm themselves while on LSD though, I thought I died before when I was on it. So technically I thought since I was already dead I could do anything, like fly and all.

See this I don't get. No matter how much I ever took I never ever thought I could do something as idiotic as fly or jump off a mountain. I do think if you already have issues they will come to the front though, which is why I'm lucky in that I have a stable past with no demons.

Anyway, would love to continue chatting about it but I think we should get back on topic

[ATS]

lol I quit weed for like 20 years now and I still dream about it, I loved that stuff. But agree technically LSD is not deadly. I couldn't imagine doing weed nowadays though because it is so freakin strong now. II can see how people could harm themselves while on LSD though, I thought I died before when I was on it. So technically I thought since I was already dead I could do anything, like fly and all.

See this I don't get. No matter how much I ever took I never ever thought I could do something as idiotic as fly or jump off a mountain. I do think if you already have issues they will come to the front though, which is why I'm lucky in that I have a stable past with no demons.

Anyway, would love to continue chatting about it but I think we should get back on topic

agreed, that just hit a nerve, so OT you all.

[chk071]

The one time i did mushrooms, i felt like i couldn't do anything anymore, and that i lived through every single moment i experienced already some time in the past. I never did any psychedelic drug anymore after that, except for weed. Methamphetamines on the the other hand were pretty great. Guess i always rather was the type for stimulants.

Didn't do anything for the last 18 years, and i'm happy i didn't. Drugs suck.

[Mushy Mushy]

The one time i did mushrooms, i felt like i couldn't do anything anymore, and that i lived through every single moment i experienced already some time in the past. I never did any psychedelic drug anymore after that, except for weed. Methamphetamines on the the other hand were pretty great. Guess i always rather was the type for stimulants.

Didn't do anything for the last 18 years, and i'm happy i didn't. Drugs suck.

They all have their purpose. I've not once, ever taken a drug or alchohol to escape reality. I have taken speed, coke, etc. to stay up and work, and I have taken psychedelics at festivals or at home listening to music. If you're taking drugs to escape it's inevitable what you're running from is going to bite you on your arse in an even harder way.

Anyway, I said I was done

[chk071]

Maybe that's the difference. I must admit that i have partly taken drugs to escape reality. If i think about it, most of the time really.

[Mushy Mushy]

Maybe that's the difference. I must admit that i have partly taken drugs to escape reality. If i think about it, most of the time really.

This is another thing I don't get. How wasted do you need to get to forget ones issues? I, like all of us, have been very very very drunk, but I never forgot I had an argument that day or f&cked up at work, etc.

[donkey tugger]

The problem with drugs is that they turn people (present company excepted of course....) into boring twats who talk about..drugs.... all the f**king time..

[Mushy Mushy]

The problem with drugs is that they turn people (present company excepted of course....) into boring twats who talk about..drugs.... all the f**king time..

Boom!

Ok I'm definitely done. I have a flight in 5 hours

[chk071]

Maybe that's the difference. I must admit that i have partly taken drugs to escape reality. If i think about it, most of the time really.

This is another thing I don't get. How wasted do you need to get to forget ones issues? I, like all of us, have been very very very drunk, but I never forgot I had an argument that day or f&cked up at work, etc.

What about people who do coke to feel like superman though? Isn't that already a escape from reality?

A psychologist told me once (i didn't went to her for issues, i just knew her) that every person who does drugs has at least some kind of problem, and that that's the actual reason why they do drugs in the first place. I won't claim that you have a problem, but... i think there's definitely something to that.

[Mushy Mushy]

What about people who do coke to feel like superman though? Isn't that already a escape from reality?

I can't, or wont, comment on people that aren't me but...

A psychologist told me once (i didn't went to her for issues, i just knew her) that every person who does drugs has at least some kind of problem, and that that's the actual reason why they do drugs in the first place. I won't claim that you have a problem, but... i think there's definitely something to that.

I can categorically tell you I am exceptionally happy in my life. Great friends, great family, great education, great well paid job, lots of travel, no demons. And yet I love coke because simply it is f**king fantastic and love mushrooms because they allow me to think much more creatively (I know that sounds ridiculously cheesy but it is true).

This is possibly also why I love beer but not getting drunk. And also why I hate weed. Both of which remove control of my surroundings. Yes, so do mushrooms but I don't exactly take them whilst going grocery shopping.

[jethrobull]

Maybe that's the difference. I must admit that i have partly taken drugs to escape reality. If i think about it, most of the time really.

That's right for me also. I have partly taken drugs to escape from the norm and/or to have a different perspective on the world/life. Not necessarily to escape from anything personal just the usual mundane work week ,same old.

[LoveEnigma18]

Even if you don't sell it or use it, your son may use it one day. Its value never goes to zero.

This is what I think before and after buying any plugin.

[vurt]

can we get back to the plugins.
no need to go on about drugs all the time you lot...