KVR Audio

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:00 pm

Now that you say it.

Anyway, i don't want to deny this thing, actually, i literally have no idea about the technical side. I'm just extremely sceptical with such things these days. Seriously, noone believes, when Intel gives out a statement, but, everyone believes million dollar businesses like magazine publishing houses. And noone even questions why, all of a sudden, the whole press is all over this thing, and why, 1 day after the initial reports, there are already 2 big buzzwords for both the Intel, and the AMD thing. That's all i want to say. The fact that this surfaces just a few days in the new year just adds to all this. As mentioned, i don't deny that this all exists, i just deny that it has nearly the impact that it is supposed to have.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:03 pm

https://spectreattack.com/

fluffy_little_something · Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:12 pm

EvilDragon wrote:So after some encouraging results from people at VI-C and GS, I pulled the patch. I did a DAWbench VI in Reaper before the patch and after, and I'm getting much the same numbers: 820 voices at 128 samples buffer with my RME UFX+, and with the factory library on Samsung 850 EVO. i7-6700K at 4.5 GHz here.

So, it seems that ASIO performance wasn't affected one bit (at least as far as Reaper is concerned). Looks like DAW users fall into "average workload" crowd.

Does that mean one can or has to install the patch manually? So far W10 has not installed any new patch on my computer.

Not sure if AMD chips are safer or not, but will the patch also affect my AMD chip even if it were safe? Is it a global patch affecting the performance of all processors, good and bad ones?

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:23 pm

I have no AMD computers so cannot test how the patch affects them. When you get KB4056892, that one has the fix in it.

fluffy_little_something · Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:26 pm

EvilDragon wrote:I have no AMD computers so cannot test how the patch affects them. When you get KB4056892, that one has the fix in it.

Hm, even a manual update search has not offered that one, yet

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:36 pm

You will get it eventually. MS always does staggered updates across the world.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:43 pm

Yep. Or just install it manually, if you can't wait for the 30% performance loss (just kidding

). http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com ... =KB4056892

fluffy_little_something · Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:51 pm

Patch is quite a euphemism for a 300+ MB download

Andreas71 · Post by **Andreas71** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 4:58 pm

I installed the patch yesterday and haven't noticed any performance degdrading. My CPU is Xeon E5-1230v3 and OS is W10 Pro.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:23 pm

Andreas71 wrote:I installed the patch yesterday and haven't noticed any performance degdrading. My CPU is Xeon E5-1230v3 and OS is W10 Pro.

That's good to know, as i have the same CPU and OS here.

(i guess the E5-1230 was a typo, and you really meant the E3-1230, as there is no E5-1230 anyway

)

Andreas71 · Post by **Andreas71** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 5:44 pm

chk071 wrote:
Andreas71 wrote:I installed the patch yesterday and haven't noticed any performance degdrading. My CPU is Xeon E5-1230v3 and OS is W10 Pro.
That's good to know, as i have the same CPU and OS here. (i guess the E5-1230 was a typo, and you really meant the E3-1230, as there is no E5-1230 anyway )

Sorry, your'e right. I meant E3-1230v3.

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Fri Jan 05, 2018 6:56 pm

Honestly, computers are so fast now that you might not notice the difference and it all depends on how much the process uses kernel mode which is the core functionality of the OS.

sl1200mk2 · Post by **sl1200mk2** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 3:47 am

My advice, do not install the Windows patch manually. If it hasn't installed it yet automatically, then you may be using incompatible antivirus or security software. Windows looks for a specific registry key created by your security software and if that's not present, then the specific KB will not be offered or installed. Forcing the install with incompatible software can render your machine into a constant BSOD boot loop. This is a kernel level change that doesn't play nicely with some existing software.

More info on compatible software: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... g&sle=true

Hope this helps.

tooneba · Post by **tooneba** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 4:11 am

I skimmed wikileaks and vault7 three letter organization's intentional backdooring Chip and application things and why should we wipe their ass with our hard earned money? This is bullshit.

gas pump · Post by **gas pump** » Sat Jan 06, 2018 5:47 am

Didn't Apple just get caught and now admits to throttling their iphones?

Makes you wonder if these people get together to discuss methods to get consumers to consume more and faster. A disposable society lead by greedy shot callers.

Patch will slow down Intel CPUs up to 30%