Native Access

[EvilDragon]

I have... 400 plugins. Plugin managers can be very useful.

[layzer]

well, at some point you gotta ask yourself, "Is it really worth all the plugin manager BS to make a stinkin song?"

installer-less plugins....drop a dll in a folder AND GO.

Well, yeah... the fewest companies really provide installer less installations though, so, in most cases you won't have that choice anyway.

And, I'd even argue that, for most people, an installer will be the right thing anyway.

you would even argue against just about anything i say, including you arguing against anything i say.

[layzer]

I have... 400 plugins. Plugin managers can be very useful.

good for you, make lots of Grammy winning music with them.

come one, come all Layzer haters, I'm in the mood!

[EvilDragon]

Fo' sho'.


(As if that's a good metric for discerning good compositions from bad, LOL.)

[whyterabbyt]

Going to a website to check if a file has been updated? Downloading a file if it has? Navigating to a folder just so I can drop that file there?

Is this the 80's? That's too much work, its much easier to get some bit of software to do it all for you.

if you dont own 500 plugins, going to a site to check for an update is hardly any work for even 2018.

True. Once you've judiciously set up the goalposts such that its not a lot of work for an update, its not a lot of work for an update.

In the meantime, even for a number of plugins well below 500, its easy to conclude that in total, for all updates over a period of time, it could be too much work.

and if you cant browse to a folder to install
a synth dll on your daw, sell your computer now , you incompetent F.

Please dont fallaciously conflate 'too much work to do' with 'cant do'. Cheers.

[layzer]

Fo' sho'.


(As if that's a good metric for discerning good compositions from bad, LOL.)

For sure.

[EvilDragon]

Please dont fallaciously conflate 'too much work to do' with 'cant do'. Cheers.

BUUUURRRRRNNNN!

[perpetual3]

Going to a website to check if a file has been updated? Downloading a file if it has? Navigating to a folder just so I can drop that file there?

Is this the 80's? That's too much work, its much easier to get some bit of software to do it all for you.

if you dont own 500 plugins, going to a site to check for an update is hardly any work for even 2018. and if you cant browse to a folder to install
a synth dll on your daw, sell your computer now , you incompetent F.
just admit it, installers/plugin managers suck.

They certainly don’t suck when your graphics card fries your logic board in your laptop and you suddenly have to reinstall every piece of software you own. The only plugin manager I have is Native Access. Everything else are individual installs, invidual license activations. It’s not about being incompetent you pretentious F, it’s about saving time.

This happened to me recently. Unfortunately, not for the first time. Enough to make me reintroduce hardware into my setup so I’m not left high and dry.

[chk071]

well, at some point you gotta ask yourself, "Is it really worth all the plugin manager BS to make a stinkin song?"

installer-less plugins....drop a dll in a folder AND GO.

Well, yeah... the fewest companies really provide installer less installations though, so, in most cases you won't have that choice anyway.

And, I'd even argue that, for most people, an installer will be the right thing anyway.

you would even argue against just about anything i say, including you arguing against anything i say.

No. I just think that you shouldn't mix up things YOU prefer with things which are more ideal for the majority of users. I prefer single DLL's i just drop into my plugin folder as well. Most users will prefer an installer. And even more will prefer a plugin manager, which doesn't even require to point to your plugin directory every time you install something. Otherwise companies wouldn't do it.

[Distorted Horizon]

I have only something between 100 and 200 vst's.

I'd still love to have an app that would list all my stuff, and notify when some of those has an update available (or more preferably would update that too with a single click).

[chk071]

True. An "app store" of some kind would be nice. But, i doubt that we will see something like that soon, i wouldn't know who would create something like that. The most obvious would be Steinberg, but, no idea if they're interested, or if plugin vendors would be.

[Harry_HH]

I have only something between 100 and 200 vst's.

I'd still love to have an app that would list all my stuff, and notify when some of those has an update available (or more preferably would update that too with a single click).

bbu

Yes, if only
- there was just one app - now most of us have 3-7 different apps,
and even then those apps won´t cover all of our plugins
- those app(s) worked as they should
- the plugin managers wouldn´t charge you CPU, and act as an additional risk to slow you computer

[rasmusklump]

Tho world gets crazier and crazier. It seems people don't mind when a software is so crappy that it insists of downloading 100s of GBs that are already on the harddisk through a w-lan connection....

[Distorted Horizon]

I have only something between 100 and 200 vst's.

I'd still love to have an app that would list all my stuff, and notify when some of those has an update available (or more preferably would update that too with a single click).

bbu

Yes, if only
- there was just one app - now most of us have 3-7 different apps,
and even then those apps won´t cover all of our plugins
- those app(s) worked as they should
- the plugin managers wouldn´t charge you CPU, and act as an additional risk to slow you computer

Something that wouldn't run all the time, only when one opens it, it'd show vst's as a list like native access, wouldn't host anything but when giving a notice of an available update, clicking an update able vst icon would start a download and then autorun the installer.. So basically it'd collect download links.

Shouldn't be a too big task for someone who can. Only issues that come in to my mind atm, is that how to get devs jump on board (to provide working dl links and keep them up to date), how to fund the app itself, how it'd download stuff that require serial (like kv331).. And couple of other things I forgot now

[perpetual3]

Tho world gets crazier and crazier. It seems people don't mind when a software is so crappy that it insists of downloading 100s of GBs that are already on the harddisk through a w-lan connection....

What app is that?