you're conflating two different issues. wanting to play the real deal over samples has nothing to do with what i was talking about.pdxindy wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 6:35 pmbelieve it or not, some people like to play a guitar rather than a sample of a guitar... it has nothing to do with some never before heard sound... (your childish sarcasm aside)Burillo wrote: Sat Apr 06, 2019 5:51 pmbelieve it or not, some people just don't care for synths that much. when i want a synth, i want "a synth", not "a unique and organic and moving and evolving sound that you haven't heard anywhere else that uses anal phase shift vector hybrid wavetable synthesis"
not to mention that i never said nor implied that everyone should approach synth sounds like me. the "childish sarcasm" you're referring to is my (perhaps poorly worded) attempt to point out that some people don't obsess over tiny details of synths. i don't care that filters in sampled synths may or may not sound authentic enough. i don't care if "samples are integrated into the synth architecture". i just want a buzzing sound, or a wobbling sound, or a synth pad sound. i don't care whether it's audio-rate modulated or whether it's correctly emulating a Moog filter.
the original question was sampled synths versus emulations. many people in this thread fault sampled synths for lack of authenticity and/or not behaving like synths. well, i'm here to tell you that there are people out there that simply don't care about that, and care more about the range of sounds they can get from "a synth" without breaking a sweat. for those people, sampled synths are a viable, and in fact great alternative. i love Syntronik with a passion, and no amount of "but it can't do audio-rate filter FM!" will change that, because i don't care.
Syntronik synth isn't a "real" synth? sure, but i don't care. its filters aren't an authentic enough emulation of a SEM filter? sure, but i don't care. i can't change baked-in oscillator/filter FM? sure, but i don't care. it takes up way more space? sure, but i don't care. i can't do infinite amount of cross-modulation? sure, but i don't care. see how that works? to many in this thread, this sounds like sacrilege, and i perfectly understand this - they love synths. i don't. i just use their sound, whenever i need it.
to go back to your guitar analogy, i actually play guitar. no existing electric guitar library sounds authentic enough for my tastes - and i don't use them. many people do, however - not because their taste is inferior, but because they don't really need an authentic guitar performance, but rather want something that sounds like a guitar but can't necessarily fool people into thinking it was an actual person playing the guitar (similarly how i don't care if i can fool you that i've actually used a real synth). both approaches are valid. same applies to synths.
