KVR Audio

Image-Line · Post by **Image-Line** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:44 pm

ictools wrote: Fri Jul 05, 2019 5:09 pmThen I did a little research of their relevance in the audio world over at google trends. It makes more sense now why they are giving away free stuff to make their software package more appealing.

Lets dig a little deeper perhaps Edward.

The reason we can give away FLEX free, including about 2 years development is because we can. Not because we have to.

So by your logic, you agree we are outselling all our competitors now. Looks like we can keep the lights on for a while longer.

Image-Line · Post by **Image-Line** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:54 pm

ictools wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:45 am It reminds me of those installers that force you to install things you don't really want or hide it with a tiny little check box you accidentally miss.

Yes Edward, hidden in plain sight. You spoiled our cunning plan. Drat!

https://www.image-line.com/downloads/fl ... nload.html

Trancit · Post by **Trancit** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:20 pm

I think, Edward is a never ending story...

anomandaris1 · Post by **anomandaris1** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:36 pm

Guys, make more expansion preset banks for Sytrus and Harmor. Maybe even layered presets for Patcher with cinematic pads/ edm leads etc.

Image-Line · Post by **Image-Line** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:39 pm

anomandaris1 wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:36 pm Guys, make more expansion preset banks for Sytrus and Harmor. Maybe even layered presets for Patcher with cinematic pads/ edm leads etc.

You just got 151 Sytrus presets, used them all-ready?

quietzone · Post by **quietzone** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:56 pm

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ictools · Post by **ictools** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:56 pm

Unaspected wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:26 am It would be nice to see install options in a future update so that we can choose which plugins will be installed and whether to install the sample packs or not - as some other DAWs do.

I love FL Studio but it is more bloated than it needs to be for my uses.

Exactly, it's a totally different mentality and approach when it comes to their packaging tactics.

ictools · Post by **ictools** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:57 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 11:36 am Fl studio developers really don't care about addding new improvements to their existing plugins apart from vectorized guis and eye candy
The sampler channel still uses the filters from version 3.0 , there has been no development whatsoever to improve these
The new Flex plug suffers from the same thing , it's a collection of existing modules thrown together

I have to agree !00%, that's probably why most of us have moved on to other DAWs and Google trends clearly backs up this "theory".

I'm having a hard time believing that they're still receiving 30,000 downloads a day too. I think there needs to be an update to their web site that's boasting such a number for so many years, when Google trends clearly shows otherwise.

bmanic · Post by **bmanic** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:10 pm

I think you two are a bit out of touch with reality. FL Studio is _the only_ DAW that I actually hear friends of my kids actually mention in school. I've never heard any kids or teens mention anything else. I think I might have once heard somebody ask something about Ableton live but FL studio is where it's at with the younger audience. Mostly because their heroes and idols are using it (or at least marketed as such).

It's also amusing to still see people think Image-Line are the "small guys".. the tiny company. They've been king of the hill for a ridiculously long time and nicely kept quiet about it all.

JunSev · Post by **JunSev** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:13 pm

No ictools, you're a hater as some others, FL Studio continue being relevant with: that's right, Lifetime Free Updates.

IL has improved a lot fl studio and is an all-around complete daw used for professional as hobbyists. I get it, the competition don't like what fl represent, is not convenient for them, but it is what it is deal with it.

ictools · Post by **ictools** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:20 pm

Don't take my words for it, simply check out Google trends. Here are the results for Youtube video searches, which is a great indicator for the audio community.

There's no denying that huge drop off in interest, no personal vendetta or smoke and mirrors here.

Totolitoto · Post by **Totolitoto** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:32 pm

What happened in 2018 that caused such a drop (for all hosts), just curious...

Distorted Horizon · Post by **Distorted Horizon** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:38 pm

Wondered the same

mladi · Post by **mladi** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:50 pm

JunSev wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:13 pm No ictools, you're a hater as some others, FL Studio continue being relevant with: that's right, Lifetime Free Updates.

IL has improved a lot fl studio and is an all-around complete daw used for professional as hobbyists. I get it, the competition don't like what fl represent, is not convenient for them, but it is what it is deal with it.

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ictools · Post by **ictools** » Sat Jul 06, 2019 3:00 pm

Totolitoto wrote: Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:32 pm What happened in 2018 that caused such a drop (for all hosts), just curious...

Great point, I had to investigate this a little further as there appears to be a bump for everyone during that time. Google trends seems to have made a data collection change on that date, so the numbers were actually inflated for everyone before that time. Which makes these graphs less then accurate.

8/5/2017 they made an improvement to their data collection system.

It still appears to be going down or flat lining, but not the steady increase before the system change.

FL Studio 20.5 | Introducing a new free plugin FLEX