Nexus 3 competitors?

[Tannaliini]

The expansions are pricey (IMO) but I know they do deals with Sweetwater and also have seasonal half price sales themselves so not really any different to a lot of other vendors and better than some who never discount (Serum, Omnisphere etc).

So is Nexus3 on sale/discounted like on BlackFriday or Christmas sales usually? Or just the expansions?

Yes, the expansions itself are very expensive when comparing to stuff like you can get a some FULL VST synth with the price. But then thing is: if the expansion’s sounds are amazing it’s (maybe) worth the big penny (or euro).

[energydrink]

I'm not a big fan of Nexus, but I've seen people suggesting heat up/lethal as alternatives...let me put it this way: Nexus can wipe the floor with those plugins and enslave them.

Heat up especially is such a poor copycat of Nexus with its gui, but the main problem is that a big portion of the samples are embarrassing beyond belief.
Too many samples have like 3-4 different velocity levels and it sounds like an amateur sampled version of an old workstation at best.

Nexus is really one of the best rompler vsts you can get, but if you'll go the hardware's way you'll find out that each one of korg/yamaha/roland latest workstation is 10x times better.

I agree on this all, IF your into romplers nexus is the best. Btw heat up is indeed horrible, I got it a while back and I really regret it.

[zvenx]

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If you find these overpriced then any sample library is overpriced!!

Most sample libraries i.e. for Kontakt are sold from 50-60$ up to nearly the sky is the limit...
The creators (depending what it delivers) either create and sample or record the sounds, process them and make playable presets from them...
Same is valid for any Nexus expansion...

Why shall be the one overpriced but the other one (which is 99% at least double expensive) is ok??

In the world of sample libraries Nexus is actually quite cheap!!

I am curious to know what Kontakt libraries you have.
I think it is vastly different quality altogether in general.
Nexus afaik and have heard, doesn't go into the details many Kontakt libaries go into with sampling. Just compare the size of the Sample content.

However indeed the point can be made and I agree that for the typical user of Nexus they do not require that level of detail that many of the higher end Kontakt Libraries go to.

If you listen to say Nexus Hollywood stuff, it is a joke for Film Scoring compared to the better Kontakt Libraries.
But if you are doing EDM you indeed don't need a Spitfire-like library quality.

I also think the Expansion packs are over priced, but as someone rightfully pointed out, the market determines that. So clearly they are overpriced for me, but for many they aren't, else Refx would have either dropped their prices (although I think they use to be $65 and are now $60) or gone out of business a long while ago.

That said, I don't' think beyond Avenger, there is quite anything like Nexus. It does what it does and does that one thing well.
rsp

[MMaarrkk]

I think FLEX is the closest thing you'll get with a Nexus-like experience. It's no wonder why it was called the free Fl Studio Nexus once it was released. From what it looks though, It's unlikely that it will see a standalone release (at least soon), though other IL VSTs have in the past, so maybe FLEX will have its time too.

When they released FLEX, they said they want to release the back end as a synth as well. However, that was quite some time ago...still hope they they will release it

Then there's still definitely hope that they'll do so. Harmor would be a powerful enough of a tool to keep away locked in FL Studio, but it's up to buy, so I expect the same with FLEX.

[VELLTONE MUSIC]

I am listening an expansions now.Very commercial sound no doubt
Curious how Nexus designers create presets - sampling presets from other synths or what?

[Bippo]

I am listening an expansions now.Very commercial sound no doubt
Curious how Nexus designers create presets - sampling presets from other synths or what?

I'm pretty sure that some of their pianos and guitars are sampled from korg and roland, some of their patches sounds very identical to very famous patches, just with some fx and eq tweaking.

I might be wrong about this, but it's a fact that korg and roland have way more resources, expirence and a larger team than refx, and I wouldn't be surprised if they "stole" from them like many other companies do.

[-Yaz-]

So is Nexus3 on sale/discounted like on BlackFriday or Christmas sales usually? Or just the expansions?

Yes, the expansions itself are very expensive when comparing to stuff like you can get a some FULL VST synth with the price. But then thing is: if the expansion’s sounds are amazing it’s (maybe) worth the big penny (or euro).

Often both and Sweetwater have done a 5 expansions for the price of 3 offer at some points as well I recall.

[-Yaz-]

d16 lush is also a massive competitor with his 8 layers, and also has outstanding presets
Dune3 also competes with 8 layers and share with Kevin Schröder a sound designer

D16 Lush is a standard VA synth and in no way whatsoever is competitor to Nexus and nor is Dune 3 - the latter is a competitor to Avenger more than it is Nexus.

[Trancit]

I am curious to know what Kontakt libraries you have.
I think it is vastly different quality altogether in general.
Nexus afaik and have heard, doesn't go into the details many Kontakt libaries go into with sampling. Just compare the size of the Sample content.

Name me one sample library for Kontakt, which goes heavy into details for 60,-€ or less which offers such a production ready high quality sound...

What you are talking about I know usually from sample libraries 150,-€ and up... if something is 2, 3 or 4 times or even more expensive I can expect a higher detail...

[zvenx]

Just look at 8dio libraries or soundiron for instance or...Pianos by Fracture sounds.... or Cinesamples or Heavyocity or.....Impact Soundwords etc.
Even SpitFire has several Free samples that are much more detailed sampled than Nexus.
They all have some of their less expensive libraries that go into way more detail sampling than Nexus.

Nexus level of sampling more compares to the Korg, Roland, Yamaha Workstations not Sample Libraries.

Production ready is of course subjective, for many genres Nexus sound is over effected.

rsp

[clipnotic]

The expansions are pricey (IMO) but I know they do deals with Sweetwater and also have seasonal half price sales themselves so not really any different to a lot of other vendors and better than some who never discount (Serum, Omnisphere etc).

Omnisphere has meanwhile a library of 14.806 sounds and amazing samples from the best hardware synths ever and it includes a full synthesizer, too! And for that all you pay without sale almost 400€! But Omnisphere is not a competitor, because it plays in another league of sounds as Nexus. Both are very strong in their area and that's the reason, I use them both and often together, but Nexus with expansions is much more expensive!

d16 lush is also a massive competitor with his 8 layers, and also has outstanding presets
Dune3 also competes with 8 layers and share with Kevin Schröder a sound designer

Your right, Dune3 is a fantastic synth, meanwhile one of my favorite and I have all expansions and Kevin Schröder is a amazing sound designer! But I think Dune3 is more of a complement, because Nexus3 is a rompler and has samples, you can't program with Dune3, and Dune3 is a synth and overall sounds better / more qualitative.

So the best solution is to buy them all!

[Tannaliini]

Production ready is of course subjective, for many genres Nexus sound is over effected.

rsp

But I thought you can edit the effects (even turn them off if you want to) in Nexus3?

[zvenx]

Production ready is of course subjective, for many genres Nexus sound is over effected.

rsp

But I thought you can edit the effects (even turn them off if you want to) in Nexus3?

Of course you can.
The Bottom line is the indeed Nexus works well in some genres and doesn't in others, effects on or off doesn't change that.
But no way you can convince me that the sampling done for Nexus is on par with the sampling done for Kontakt libaries on the whole... 60 Euros regardless.
rsp

[Trancit]

Just look at 8dio libraries or soundiron for instance or...Pianos by Fracture sounds.... or Cinesamples or Heavyocity or.....Impact Soundwords etc.
Even SpitFire has several Free samples that are much more detailed sampled than Nexus.
They all have some of their less expensive libraries that go into way more detail sampling than Nexus.
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Let´s see...

The cheapest ones from Cinesamples are around 99,-$ for about 10 patches...!!
Means for 128 Patches like in a Nexus Soundbank you would pay about 1280,-$ ... perhaps a little bit more expansive than the 60,- € of a Nexus expansion...

8dio starts at 48,-$ for a single instrument... 1 instrument = 1 Patch = 48,-$ x 128= 6144,- $ ... perhaps as well not the correct comparison for a 60,-$ expansion...

At soundiron you pay at least 19,-$ for a single instrument... x128... you know...
Fracture sounds more or less the same...

Heavyocity would perhaps the only real alternative which would be only 2-3 times more expensive...

Sorry... I cannot follow your logic...

[zvenx]

What my point was from inception . Quality.
Nexus sampling is no way as detailed as those in most kontakt libraries.

I am curious to know what Kontakt libraries you have.
I think it is vastly different quality altogether in general.
Nexus afaik and have heard, doesn't go into the details many Kontakt libaries go into with sampling. Just compare the size of the Sample content.

And btw Cinesmaples has a bunch of Free samples..... much better quality of sampling than Nexus

https://cinesamples.com/productGroup/freebies


Rsp