DDMF PluginDoctor - Alternatives linear / Harmonics Analysis

[docdued]

New version has almost zero CPU in idle mode now, by the way... thanks for pointing that out!

[RPH]

New version has almost zero CPU in idle mode now, by the way... thanks for pointing that out!

Great, thanks a lot!
No problem at all.

[Debutante]

Downside to PluginDoctor is that it's standalone, another contender is available as VST plugin (only freq. response analysis so far): https://www.bertomaudio.com/eqca.html

So what's the benefit of having it as a VST plugin?

WOW... you can check things on the fly!!! Match eq curves and listen to results IMMEDIATELY. I was just doing this last night with my IIEQ vs. some analog emus... fantastic!!!! Check amplifier eq curves et in session. In session rules.

[kidslow]

I don't own it, so can't say with any certainty ... but wouldn't Waves Q-Clone also provide some of the requested functionality as a VST plugin?

[GRUMP]

I don't own it, so can't say with any certainty ... but wouldn't Waves Q-Clone also provide some of the requested functionality as a VST plugin?

I don´t have it, too - but it would: u can analyze EQ-Curves.

[GRUMP]

It´s nice to see that the Discussion goes on

I have integrated some Analysis in my daily Practice. VTS have prooved as very advantageous for checks (e. g. while IR Generation) while PD is out of Touch when it´s about the Evaluation of Plugins and their Functionality.

[Compyfox]

Care to maybe elaborate a bit further as to "why" you think that Plugin Doctor is - and please let me quote -

of Touch when it´s about the Evaluation of Plugins and their Functionality.

While Plugin Doctor is definitely not perfect, and there is certainly still room for more. But considering what is currently "out there", still maintained (rest in piece, VST Plugin Analyzer) and at least somewhat understandable (ever noticed that the majority of these tools do not come with a manual how to do things?), this tool is currently among your best route to go. You can measure VST2, VST3 and AU. It is cross-platform (MacOS and Windows), can't say no to that.


From what I gather, your biggest complaint are that you can't compare (for example) two EQ's in realtime straight out of the box. While I definitely understand that, there are(!) workarounds (for example with a modular sub-host, and one EQ per channel).

Then I take it, that you're not too happy with the resolution and/or plot readout type. While I think the resolution is fine (I think it uses 8192 samples and not 16384 samples for the FFT), wanting other plot "types" (curve interpretation) is of near zero importance in reality. I mean... unless you're a tech-wizard, nobody cares about this kind of stuff. They only care to see a basic EQ curve, and that's it.

I'd just like to understand this notion.


There are a lot of improvements I'd love to see.

Like an actual SVG export rather than an UI screenshot function. Or a "white plot export" (for technical documents) compared to the currently grey one. Then I am not a fan of the auto-color selection if you create multiple snapshots of plots. But again... considering to what is "out there", and considering what VST Plugin Analizer (even the pro version) gave us... at that price it's a damn steal! And I'd pay the same again just to get these features in a "pro version" or "v2".




Then again - I do know my ways around measuring equipment with certain specific test signals and the right FFT (pity that Signalizer is in limbo as well). If your go-to tool is no longer developed and neither was it really documented either, then you have to get a little bit creative.

[GRUMP]

Care to maybe elaborate a bit further as to "why" you think that Plugin Doctor is - and please let me quote -

of Touch when it´s about the Evaluation of Plugins and their Functionality.

While Plugin Doctor is definitely not perfect, and there is certainly still room for more. But considering what is currently "out there", still maintained (rest in piece, VST Plugin Analyzer) and at least somewhat understandable (ever noticed that the majority of these tools do not come with a manual how to do things?), this tool is currently among your best route to go. You can measure VST2, VST3 and AU. It is cross-platform (MacOS and Windows), can't say no to that.


From what I gather, your biggest complaint are that you can't compare (for example) two EQ's in realtime straight out of the box. While I definitely understand that, there are(!) workarounds (for example with a modular sub-host, and one EQ per channel).

Then I take it, that you're not too happy with the resolution and/or plot readout type. While I think the resolution is fine (I think it uses 8192 samples and not 16384 samples for the FFT), wanting other plot "types" (curve interpretation) is of near zero importance in reality. I mean... unless you're a tech-wizard, nobody cares about this kind of stuff. They only care to see a basic EQ curve, and that's it.

I'd just like to understand this notion.


There are a lot of improvements I'd love to see.

Like an actual SVG export rather than an UI screenshot function. Or a "white plot export" (for technical documents) compared to the currently grey one. Then I am not a fan of the auto-color selection if you create multiple snapshots of plots. But again... considering to what is "out there", and considering what VST Plugin Analizer (even the pro version) gave us... at that price it's a damn steal! And I'd pay the same again just to get these features in a "pro version" or "v2".




Then again - I do know my ways around measuring equipment with certain specific test signals and the right FFT (pity that Signalizer is in limbo as well). If your go-to tool is no longer developed and neither was it really documented either, then you have to get a little bit creative.

Ahm ... as statet already ... I don´t really have the Time for Perfectionism and I don´t really need to compare two EQs in Realtime. I´m OK with PD - it´s Progress and a unique? Tool - although I´d maybe like to know more about the Curve Shapes and Differences between them. But to be true - I skipped the relevant Maths lessons anyway (25 yrs ago). "For Dummies" would be nice

My Complaint was that PD seems to sniff my System, wanted to change numerous Files and even tried to establish a Connection to another Host.. I´d expect this Behaviourfrom Shareware and classified PD respectively :/ Kaspersky really flipps out. Usability ** of ***** because of this. Clicking "deny" 100 Times is really no Fun!

[Compyfox]

I don't know what went wrong on your end, but from the time I have PluginDoctor (which is within the first week of release), I have never seen anything like this. Heck, PluginDoctor isn't even using C/R.

Then again, Kasperky is known to false flag audio tools left and right.

[GRUMP]

I don't know what went wrong on your end, but from the time I have PluginDoctor (which is within the first week of release), I have never seen anything like this. Heck, PluginDoctor isn't even using C/R.

Then again, Kasperky is known to false flag audio tools left and right.

Read my Post.

K die mit flag anything. It just reported activities - Registry Entrys, File Changes, ... and even the Attempt to establish a Connection to a Server.

I don't know how this Tool works but it doesn't have to change Synth Presets for Example. Plz apologize my Misstrust, but this Behaviour ist suspicious resp. not trustworthy for me.

I will not finish the Data Set with my Contact and Banking Details.

I have several Plugins that scan my VST Folders and never had such Issued by the Way - and usually only hear from Kaspersky when I install a Software. 10 Clicks and everything is fine. Usually ...

[GRUMP]

I have just let the Plugin Doctor scan my VST Folders. Here is a little Report of Kasperskys Complaints:

- Read Personal Settings of the Internet Explorer
- Generate Registry Key (and subordinate Parameter) in a protected Area: OS/Security Settings - Autostart - System Serices)
- Modify File (Disco DSP Vertigo VST Log File)
- Read Object from the Group "Personal Data / Program Settings / Anti Virus Protection / Kaspersky Lab"
...

PD unfortunately crashed around 28% Search Progress three Times after I denied all Actions.

An Explanation concerning this Behaviour would be nice.

Why is PD interested in my IE?
What does it want to do in the Autostart Registry?
Why does it try to modify Files?
And wtf is so interesting about the Program Settings of my Virus Protection

I probably can´t resist the Temptation to make use of my Trashcan now.

EDIT: I hope this Guy knows his Countrys Law. The EU/German Regulations are real Show-Stoppers sometimes. This concerns the Website as well as the Application (no Terms) and esp. its Behaviour.

Beste Grüße aus Darmstadt!°

[El°HYM]

Are you sure you installed the right version from their site. This just sounds super - weird & more like something is trying to write deep into your system, lets say #malware or similar. The company is in Europe, but I might just misread that.
But anyway, are there any other users, having similar troubles with those #plugs?

[GRUMP]

Are you sure you installed the right version from their site. This just sounds super - weird & more like something is trying to write deep into your system, lets say #malware or similar. The company is in Europe, but I might just misread that.
But anyway, are there any other users, having similar troubles with those #plugs?

Absolutely. And yes - this Behaviour is more than suspicious. And as I have just read he´s under German Law, maybe sitting next Door ...

[El°HYM]

Hey, lets not shoot into the dark here, maybe things should be cleared up first. This Developer has some decent plugins in his repertoire & seems pretty active, too. Maybe he is even in here sometimes, as quite some are. Or someone else can shed some light into the dark. We all know that german law is just horrible, right.

Sounds pretty trustworthy to me:
https://ddmf.eu/faq/

[GRUMP]

Hey, lets not shoot into the dark here, maybe things should be cleared up first. This Developer has some decent plugins in his repertoire & seems pretty active, too. Maybe he is even in here sometimes, as quite some are. Or someone else can shed some light into the dark. We all know that german law is just horrible, right.

Sounds pretty trustworthy to me:
https://ddmf.eu/faq/

You´re right. Life´s a Bitch and I ain´t no Saint, too - but I don´t expect an Answer and have Doubts that it will give us Certainty concerning potential Threats.

And ddmf.eu doesn´t even have an Impressum. That´s no good around here. I hope that he pays his Tribute to the Tax Gangsters...

Btw I know all these Problems myself and I´m a little bit confused because it´s maybe all so easy if you just don´t care ...