New Ujam Multi-Effect - Finisher Retro

[jens]

You made the absurd assumption that having those macro knobs is something everyone will dislike, just because you do.

I didn't - nowhere did I write something that could be interepreted that way.

You know, you asked for opinions when you started the thread. You got mine, you obviously can't live with it because it diverts too much from your own experience and you can't just let that be as it is so you have to come up with the absurdest arguments and misinterpretations and -presentations of what I said in an attempt to somehow refute me.

And that is just pathetic in my opinion. Especially for someone your age - you just didn't mature at all within the last two decades, it seems.

I sense a lot of insecurity regarding your own skills and knowledge and a strong need for reassurance.

I from now on will continue to do my best to just ignore you, as I used to do all these years. You simply aren't worthy of more of my time and energy and I have zero desire to prove anything.

[BONES]

You know, you asked for opinions when you started the thread.

Yep, doesn't mean I was going to agree with all, or even any, of them. But it's hard to have a useful discussion when everyone agrees with everyone else. Threads are much more likely to keep going where there is disagreement. It's surprising how often something slips by when a thread only goes for a couple of days, so keeping this one alive for 4 or 5 days increases the chances that anyone who might be interested will find it. And that's why I started the thread in the first place.

Do you realise that it took me two pages to find out what you thought about the way it sounds? You were so focused on the fact it didn't sound like a Phase 90 or a Small Stone that you hadn't said a word about whether or not it sounded any good. As someone who almost certainly wouldn't like the sound of a Phase 90 or a Small Stone (never found a use for a phaser in my life), saying Retro didn't do a good job of emulating one was meaningless to me. And I had to ask directly, twice, before you got around to saying anything about how good or bad you thought it sounded. But it kept the thread bubbling along, so I was fine with it.

And that is just pathetic in my opinion. Especially for someone your age - you just didn't mature at all within the last two decades, it seems.

There we go, it always has to end up being personal. That, my friend, is an incredibly immature state of mind. My interests are VERY different from yours, I doubt you have any skills that I would value at all. You are clearly more interested in all the minutiae of the process than in getting things done. The way you assessed this particular product, for example, was so different from the way I was looking at it that your initial post made very little sense to me at all. Then, when I asked you for clarification, you gave me none but, after sufficient baiting, you finally provided the clue I needed to understand what you were trying to say. Although I still don't know why you brought up PK's name. At the same time, you were making absolutely no effort to understand my point of view at all. Count the number of questions I asked you and compare it to the number you asked me. I just wanted to understand your point of view so I could evaluate it, whereas you weren't interested in what anyone else had to say.

Which of those two approaches sounds immature and insecure to you? Someone who is trying to understand the other guy's point and gets frustrated at the lack of response or the guy who refuses point black to accept anything the other guy has to say?

I from now on will continue to do my best to just ignore you, as I used to do all these years. You simply aren't worthy of more of my time and energy and I have zero desire to prove anything.

There, again, how mature is that? "This person disagrees with me so I will ignore him". Do you not see how pathetic that is? How much that attitude might restrict you in the long term? I seek out people who disagree with me because that's how you learn. You challenge your ideas and see how they hold up. If they hold up well, it confirms your thinking and if they don't, then you modify your thinking. But if you only listen to those who agree with you, you miss so many opportunities to learn and grow. It might be good for a fragile ego but it's not helpful.

Anyway, I'm loving Finisher Retro and I'm using it all over the place. Some of the distortion and saturation algorithms are amazing. The only improvement I could think of is a built-in way to modulate the Vari controls but I can automate things easily enough, so it's no biggie. A little bit of movement definitely brings things to life.

[revvy]

What have you done with bones? I'm getting worried now.

[woodsdenis]

(never found a use for a phaser in my life)

sounds like a phaser on the synth to me @ .38 sec ?

[BONES]

In fact, both the DUNE parts in that song have phaser on them but that's down to my bandmate, not me. It must have been something he was into at the time. I think the one you picked sounds better without it but it works well enough on the other one. It's still not something I'd ever think to use myself. I'd be more likely to modulate the cutoff and/or resonance with an LFO because my first instinct is always to tweak the synth controls rather than add effects.

[melomood]

This thread is long with much discussion but it's mostly a train wreck that needs more phaser and my takeaway is that I should probably just try it out and see if I personally like it because fx that have been featured on albums by famous bands also had famous touches from famous producers & engineers

[revvy]

"Like Instagram filters for your audio."

their next plugin could focus on Snapchat filters. Rainbow-vomit would be a good one.

Walkthrough video interesting and made me laugh (win!) and it sounded great, but no discount for me so nope.

[JerGoertz]

This thread is long with much discussion but it's mostly a train wreck that needs more phaser and my takeaway is that I should probably just try it out and see if I personally like it because fx that have been featured on albums by famous bands also had famous touches from famous producers & engineers

Mostly a Trainwreck = you know who decided to sound off with his 2c

[JerGoertz]

On-topic, I like the sounds this thing can generate, although I have no idea how authentic it is, and I kinda would like a traditional dry/wet knob. I'm at the point where I can appreciate both time-saving workflows and also "authentic emulations".

[BONES]

You can always put it in a SEND channel to get dry/wet control so I don't see a problem.

[MitchK1989]

Sends suck if you're trying to chain multiple effects and stuff in the middle of the chain needs a dry/wet - for me a send is for an effect track that is going to be fed from multiple tracks, not a second track tacked onto an individual instrument track just to hack a dry/wet onto a plugin that doesn't have one - clutters the whole project up rather than just having a dry/wet knob on an effect where it would be useful

[BONES]

Whoops! Wrong thread.

[vurt]

Here's an interesting interview with the two blokes who started SSM and have rebooted the company as SSI. This is a shorter version, there is also a 55 minute version.

no it isn't.
that's an uno vid.

[BONES]

Yes, it is, and I could have sworn I posted in the the Uno Pro thread. My bad. To be fair, though, they hardly mention Uno at all. It's all about SSM/SSI.

[vurt]

Yes, it is, and I could have sworn I posted in the the Uno Pro thread. My bad. To be fair, though, they hardly mention Uno at all. It's all about SSM/SSI.

ah, i didn't watch, just saw the logo.
got confused, thinking ssi was something to do with the ujam,but i see now!
makes sense now i know where it should have been