How comfortable can it be using a desktop?

[Ksamphos]

Thank you a lot, Pictus, and yes, local ebay I meant mercado livre (:

You are welcome!

My only important doubt now is about which motherboard to buy for the Intel I5-11400,

By what I calculated,
Amd Ryzen 5 3600 ($263) + MSI B450 Tomahawk Max II ($189) + Geforce GT 1030SC ($151) would cost $605
while

Intel Core i5-11400F($214) + Gigabyte Z490M ($222) would cost $437

Attention, the Core i5-11400F does not have built-in GPU!
https://www.techspot.com/review/2232-in ... i5-11400f/

But I'm not sure if this Gigabyte Z490M would be good enough.

The only Gigabyte Z490M I found was the Gigabyte Z490M Gaming X
https://www.terabyteshop.com.br/produto ... -matx-ddr4
Very good motherboard with strong/stable VRM for its price, it can supports
CPU with more cores, the more efficient VRM may also produce less heat
inside the case.

Some options I found on terabyteshop:

MSI H310M PRO-VDH PLUS, Intel LGA 1151, $92
Gigabyte B360M AORUS GAMING3, Intel LGA 1151, $128
Gigabyte Z390 M Gaming, Intel LGA 1151, $209

They do not work, you need LGA 1200.


UPDATE:
For Gigabyte Z490M Gaming X work with Intel 11th generation CPUs, the
motherboard needs BIOS update, I think Terabyteshop's updates the BIOS
before shipping the motherboard, make sure ask for their support.

I checked and unfortunately this product comes with factory BIOS,
For not having this bios issue,

ASRock B560M Steel Legend, Intel LGA1200, Micro ATX, DDR4 - Could this one be a good option? I saw that It supports 11th gen from factory, and its near the same price of the z490.

And also this
ASRock B560 Steel Legend, Chipset B560, Intel LGA 1200, ATX, DDR4, 90-MXBFD0-A0UAYZ
For r$1345 on terabyteshop
Maybe this one is an ok option?

There is this one also:
ASRock B560M-HDV, Intel LGA1200, Micro ATX, DDR4
But its much cheaper so I suppose its not so good

[Ksamphos]

Gigabyte B560m Ds3h - I found also this for a cheap price

[Pictus]

Get this
https://www.terabyteshop.com.br/produto ... -matx-ddr4
and update to this BIOS
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/ ... -x_f20.zip
you can update the bios without CPU/RAM/GPU installed

-Format a small USB pendrive in FAT32
-Copy the BIOS
-Plug the pendrive in the white port
-Press the Q-FLAH button
-Wait some minutes




About B560, look at this

[Ksamphos]

Get this
https://www.terabyteshop.com.br/produto ... -matx-ddr4
and update to this BIOS
https://download.gigabyte.com/FileList/ ... -x_f20.zip
you can update the bios without CPU/RAM/GPU installed

-Format a small USB pendrive in FAT32
-Copy the BIOS
-Plug the pendrive in the white port
-Press the Q-FLAH button
-Wait some minutes




About B560, look at this

Really thank you, but in the case I dont have courage to try it now, do you think the ASRock B560M Steel Legend is an acceptable option?

Im needing the computer soon, and I never touched hardware in my life, when younger I was a software geek, but the hardware werent exactly mine, so I never risked touching it. Nowadays I see this knowledge is very useful, and I pretend to install near future upgrades by myself after the computer is ready (like more ssd and ram), however, not sure if I would risk that for now.

[Pictus]

You are welcome, the ASRock B560M Steel Legend seems to be a good
board, but I do not know if the board will behave(BIOS dependent) like
in the video I posted...
But with the ASRock you probably should update the BIOS too
https://asrock.com/MB/Intel/B560M%20Ste ... x.asp#BIOS

[Ksamphos]

You are welcome, the ASRock B560M Steel Legend seems to be a good
board, but I do not know if the board will behave(BIOS dependent) like
in the video I posted...
But with the ASRock you probably should update the BIOS too
https://asrock.com/MB/Intel/B560M%20Ste ... x.asp#BIOS

I didnt realize the video you posted was about the b560, I though it was teaching how to update the BIOS of the z490.

Now that I realized the subject of the video... Complicated, making a computer is difficult, there's seems to be always some detail in the way. I'll have to think more.

And there's always a risk of the product getting out of stock, I was all up to get this R$1345 b560 steel legend when it's there, but now I have doubts... Perhaps confirming with a technician if he can update the BIOS of a z490 for me if needed...

I found now also the Gigabyte Z590 D Ultra Durable Intel Lga 1200 for around r$1580 in submarino, not really cheap, but it seems that Gigabyte is considered good in mobos, perhaps that would be Nice?

It would reach the price of getting a ryzen 5 3600 + mobo + Geforce1030 sc, but Im counting that the single thread advantage of the i5 11400 still worth It.

I pretend to edit videos to put in YouTube in the future, like adding video content to my music production, but I guess I would need a better GPU for that anyway, and my plan was to get the best cpu and update other things later - so the advantage of i5 11400 single thread is what is moving me.

[Pictus]

There is no mystery in update the BIOS, just follow the steps.
The Gigabyte Z590 D the price is not good for the type of motherboard.
In all those years I did many, many times...
The last one was last week...

[Ksamphos]

There is no mystery in update the BIOS, just follow the steps.
The Gigabyte Z590 D the price is not good for the type of motherboard.
In all those years I did many, many times...
The last one was last week...

I see the z590d is quite more expensive, but do you think is it a better or worst mobo than the z490? Cause I would probably have to ask the technician to update the z490 and he would charge.

[Pictus]

This z590 model looks worst to me...

[Passing Bye]

Flashing BIOS is really straightforward thing, even I did it on my own, if I could do it, anyone can, don't be afraid.

[Ksamphos]

I bought the b560 Steel legend. As I plan to install the Ninja cooler and I can tweak the options at BIOS, besides this one is a bit more expensive than the Pro 4 that appears on the tests, I found it better than depending on the bios change. It might be weird, but that's how I feel now, I need the computer soon and I wasn't wanting to have this issue at the start.
More than this, it's so many options and details that I felt I needed to start it, lol.

What I got already is:

Asrock b560 steel legend
Intel i5 11400
Ram 8gb Crucial Ballistrix
The case recomended by Pictus and the fans
SSD 480gb Kingston A400

It's missing yet the PSU and I pretend to buy the Ninja cooler.

For the PSU, I suppose I could try to buy one that handle my future upgrades, which will include soon more RAM, SSD and who knows if in the future a good GPU and much more RAM.

I'm not 100% sure I know how to use the PSU calculator.

It doesn't have i5 11400, so I put 10400,
I put 3 RAMS total 40gb
Geforce RTX 3070 video card
3 SATA SSD and 1 HD 5.4 rpm
1 Blu Ray Drive
2 fans 80 mm
1 cooler Thermalcake Water 3.0 Pro (there's no Scythe Ninja)
3 monitor lcd 37 inches

16 hours utilization per day
8 hours video(audio?) rendering time

It gave:

Load Wattage: 433 W
Recommended UPS rating: 1250 VA
Recommended PSU Wattage: 483 W

And recommended:
EVGA 500W 80PLUS Certified Power Supply -

I put everything pretty exagerated, like not impossible that I have 3 monitors in the future, probably not 37'' each. The video card I put a very expensive one, perhaps it gets cheaper in the future. 16 hours per day and 8 hours of rendering video seems also quite exagerated.

I was thinking on this PSU, Cooler Master MWE 650W, 80 Plus White,
https://www.terabyteshop.com.br/produto ... 6501-acaaw

But perhaps even exagerating I would be very far from needing 650W?

Not sure also how much does it matter to be modular or not, I know it's about the wires, but I don't know in practice the relevance.