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xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:57 pm

Passing Bye has censored it

Memsterrr · Post by **Memsterrr** » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:01 pm

If you asked me this question 15 years ago, I would've said FL, but the new FL 20 is a real pain in the arse. I've had to fork out money on udemy on a course, just to get to grips with it all again (which I've yet to sit down and even start, procrastination being what it is!). I make warm, lo-fi, sample-based Hip Hop, so it's not like Trap music, which is as easy as shelling peas.

Taken into account holistically -- and what Hip Hop actually is -- a lot of the elements in FL just aren't Hip Hop friendly (despite the developers arguing the opposite). Luckily there are plenty of third party plugins one can use in FL, such as Decimort 2, serato sample etc. Which help to weed out a lot of the painstaking processes inherent to FL. But yeh. Don't start with FL! And if you do, you better be prepared to do some serious studying.

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:11 pm

on sonicacademy.com there is complete beginner (your first song in ... ) series for

Bitwig
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/bi ... er-level-1
FL Studio
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/ma ... nner-lvl-1
Cubase
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/cu ... er-level-1
Logic
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/lo ... er-level-1
Ableton
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/ab ... er-level-1
Studio One
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/st ... er-level-1

you can check them too

Memsterrr · Post by **Memsterrr** » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:18 pm

xbitz wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:11 pm on sonicacademy.com there is complete beginner (your first song in ... ) series for

Bitwig
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/bi ... er-level-1
FL Studio
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/ma ... nner-lvl-1
Cubase
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/cu ... er-level-1
Logic
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/lo ... er-level-1
Ableton
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/ab ... er-level-1
Studio One
https://www.sonicacademy.com/courses/st ... er-level-1

you can check them too

Was that in reference to my post? If so, awesome! and Thanks. Now I essentially have two courses

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Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:30 pm

Anyone actually bothered to read the opening line, thread isn't about your favorite DAW, it's about girl who can play an instrument and sing and wants to try to get into world of composing in DAW, probably knows how to read/write scores, probably have degree from music school, so she most likely doesn't really need DAW to hack music theory with or will make hip hop beats.

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:51 pm

Another option is https://www.admiralbumblebee.com/DAW-Chart.html and adding extra weight to the learning section and to the needed ones

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:58 pm

Passing Bye wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:30 pm Anyone actually bothered to read the opening line, thread isn't about your favorite DAW, it's about girl who can play an instrument and sing and wants to try to get into world of composing in DAW, probably knows how to read/write scores, probably have degree from music school, so she most likely doesn't really need DAW to hack music theory with or will make hip hop beats.

+1 (although, that won't change the fact that this thread will soon be 20 pages long and every DAW on the planet will have been mentioned at least once).

I'll expand on my first reply and why I recommend GarageBand:
- it's free, so no risk if she doesn't like it
- it has a score editor (although many of us who do read/write notation end up working mostly in the piano roll anyway)
- it's dead easy to use (so easy that an adult can learn it

), and there's no shortage of free tutorials around for it
- it's highly stable
- it includes everything she would need to get started
- OP/parent uses Logic, so he/she is probably already capable of helping her learn the much simpler GB and make it easy to transition to Logic in the future
- since the OP/parent already owns a Logic license, she can probably install Logic on her computer if/when she's ready to make that jump (if she's under the same Apple ID).

SparkySpark · Post by **SparkySpark** » Fri Oct 01, 2021 11:45 pm

If scoring can be omitted, then I'd say MuLab. In fact, when I asked for a free first DAW for my students, I was given MuLab as advice, and I've been suing it (the paid version) ever since. I think MuLab is the only DAW (I might be wrong though) where you see all the synths and fx as racks, below the composer view. So as long as she's doing normal MIDI work, then MuLab Free would be great.

(blacklight) · Post by **(blacklight)** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:31 pm

Some excellent points made above but rather than repeat if I could recommend Korg’s Gadget on IOS.

It’s clearly laid out, covers a lot of arrangement but not too deep and lots of interesting instruments to start off. I still play with it. And if it’s on iPad then it’s easy to dip in and out on the go.

sergiofrias · Post by **sergiofrias** » Sat Oct 02, 2021 7:58 pm

Synapse Audio Orion

splink · Post by **splink** » Wed Oct 06, 2021 12:04 pm

I love how easy Ableton was to get into. I felt like just spending time messing around was the best way to learn it. You can't go too wrong following tutorials and walkthroughs on YouTube, but remember you have to find your own process and workflows that result in the sounds that are unique to you. Only through playing around will you get there.

DiBase · Post by **DiBase** » Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:21 am

Maybe MPC or Live

BBFG# · Post by **BBFG#** » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:37 pm

Best to point her to demo and entry level DAWs and let her gravitate to what she feels is best to her. Anything else generally causes issues. Assuming she is a friend that you want to remain friends with, your role is to suggest everything and support her personal journey. Offering only insights from your experience as it currently relates to what she finds.

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:03 pm

Every DAW can be learned, especially following a good tutorial, you can find out in few years what you like messing around and switching DAW's, think that's pretty much the road that is destined to anyone that don't know somebody who can spare them at least few headaches along the way.

I taught quite a few people to use different DAW's and actually help them find the ones that could fit them the most, based on their musical preference, skills and aspiration... and they pretty much landed on different things, even if they made similar music, some of them didn't want to play an instrument, so found one that had most sense to be used with mouse, others that were into recording found one that had the best workflow for that and etc.

Things get little narrower when you decide about some aspects, if your aspiration as someone who plays an piano and sing is to get into composing/scoring game, you pretty much are safe to land on most used ones in those circles, like Cubase or Logic, there ain't going to be much surprises down the line, their features are tailored to cater to that crowd and ultimately those will be the most important features to you down the line too.

Effectsworks · Post by **Effectsworks** » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:07 pm

Ableton. Easy to learn, powerful, and there arehuge learning resources freely available on youtube.

What's the easiest DAW to learn for someone new to music software?