SQ8L is pretty accurate for the most part. The filter could be a bit better but it's mostly very much in the ballpark. At the CPU cost it has it's a no-brainer, so I'm hoping Arturia's won't be 20x more CPU. But realistically, comparing their DX7 V with Dexed, it kinda is like that, so darn it...briefcasemanx wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:44 am How accurate is SQ8L? I mostly don't care about the sounds but there are a few really good patches. Never tried to program one myself.
Arturia SQ 80 V
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- 24404 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
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- 2514 posts since 28 Sep, 2012
As a mac user, I’m patiently awaiting the SQ80V. Love the sound of Aril Brikha’s work, much of which made with the ESQ- M.
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- 19783 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
"Back in the day" when the first digital and hybrid synths came out no one cared about analog synths any longer. I worked in a music store at the time and don't remember anyone ever coming in looking for an analog. Everybody wanted the DX7 or M1 or D-50. Or the Ensoniq ESQ-1/SQ80 which were two of our best sellers.beely wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 4:33 pm Anyway, there's plenty of analog dinosaurs and digital dinosaurs to model yet... Whether there were more crap digital ones, or more crap analog ones back in the day is a different debate...
But I realize analog has made a comeback quite often from people who never got to own them back in the day.
Anyway I'm looking forward to hearing Arturia's SQ-80. Hope they nail it because it was/is capable of some unique sounds. Wish I had saved my ESQ-1 patches when I sold mine several years ago. The kid that bought it was so excited to get his hands on one so I'm glad it went to a good home. Same with my VFX.
So if the SQ-80 is a hit for Arturia maybe they'll be encouraged to do an VFX emulation as well if legal issues don't get in the way. One can hope.
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- 24404 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
We already got a very good PPG Wave from Waldorf themselves.egbert101 wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:14 pm Eighties synths make sense. So what else are Arturia making? Are we finally getting a PPG Wave?
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- 3032 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
I know, I was there too... TB-303's for £50, TR-808/909 for £100, Jupiter 8's for £600 - all that old analog tat was unweidly, unreliable, old fashioned and difficult to interface - and without the benefit of good DAWs to make non-MIDI sound making tools much more useful.Teksonik wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:27 pm"Back in the day" when the first digital and hybrid synths came out no one cared about analog synths any longer.
Yep, which also means that these people think anything analog and vintage is automatically brilliant - when we all know there were budget, crap, bland or average, and feature poor synths aplenty...Teksonik wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:27 pmBut I realize analog has made a comeback quite often from people who never got to own them back in the day.
Anyway, I'm still a fan of emulations, done well, in general... and there's still plenty of holes to fill...
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- 1637 posts since 28 Jul, 2006
Lol I want every dev to make every plugin as much of a cpu hog as is necessary.EvilDragon wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:28 pmSQ8L is pretty accurate for the most part. The filter could be a bit better but it's mostly very much in the ballpark. At the CPU cost it has it's a no-brainer, so I'm hoping Arturia's won't be 20x more CPU. But realistically, comparing their DX7 V with Dexed, it kinda is like that, so darn it...briefcasemanx wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:44 am How accurate is SQ8L? I mostly don't care about the sounds but there are a few really good patches. Never tried to program one myself.
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- 24404 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia
In Arturia's case it's mostly far from necessary. DX7 V doesn't justify the huge increase in CPU usage over Dexed considering there's no matching huge increase in modeling accuracy (they sound really really close when doing straight DX7 patches).
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- 3032 posts since 6 Jul, 2013
Plus the Arturia stuff takes *forever* to load - they are really "heavy" plugins, generally... I don't know what's going on in their frameworks, it can't all be graphics (though there are a lot of those)...
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- 19783 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
You know I was working with Pigments earlier today and thought "damn this plugin takes a long time to load". I wonder if it's some kind of "call home" copy protection check or something ?beely wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:31 pm Plus the Arturia stuff takes *forever* to load - they are really "heavy" plugins, generally... I don't know what's going on in their frameworks, it can't all be graphics (though there are a lot of those)..
I also notice on both systems I have it installed on that every time I load Pigments it creates an empty Arturia folder in my downloads folder. Not sure what that's all about so maybe that has something to do with it.
It doesn't seem like the graphics alone would justify the loading time.
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- 19783 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Busted. I just loaded up Pigments and the service center agent.exe did generate a report at the Firewall.
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- 35671 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I recently learned that some of those leaks are purely down to the narcissism of the vloggers indeed. Microsoft recently had such a case, for example.Passing Bye wrote: Sun Sep 05, 2021 5:03 pm This kind of leak is least obvious marketing move, which is much better than going through some obvious You Tube influencer, much better.
I wouldn't give the guy another test version of a future product, if that's the case. Absolute jerks, such people.
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- 453 posts since 21 Jun, 2013
Looks good! I've never owned any Ensoniq synth, but plenty of my friends used to use various Ensoniq synths back in the day.
I'm a fan of any and all synths being brought back to life in plugin form, so I'll be checking this out when it's released.
I'm a fan of any and all synths being brought back to life in plugin form, so I'll be checking this out when it's released.
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- 30 posts since 11 Mar, 2010
Wish the video had shown the programming interface in action because it looks a lot different than the idiot simple UI of the hardware. Emulating the 10 buttons around the screen would have been trivial. Wonder if the flow diagram on the right acts as buttons like the hardware. Of course I'm sure Arturia has expanded the crap out of it with new waveforms, filters, effects, etc.
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