Cubase License Poll

[PAK]

Where do you get the impression I need you or someone else as my mirror.

Your words came across as "because this isn't a problem for me, it isn't a problem.. period". So it wasn't meant as "holding a mirror" to you. It's simply trying to state the obvious IE just because someone thinks something is "stupid / unreasonable / unrequired / whatever", it doesn't always make it so, and people have their individual needs and preferences..

You don't have to agree with my disposition at_all, got no problem with what you want or why, but as a wider argument it's a bit <The sky is falling>

There's validity to your point, because I don't reckon Steinberg will disappear soon either. However, over time, it does become increasingly likely changes will occur which alter that, and it's only being introduced as a factor because of the way Steinberg choose to implement some aspects of their copy protection. So it's not that the sky is falling. It's that, if it ever does, they have ways to stop it falling on top of you, and they're presently not implementing those!

Your last bit, I don't even know what I should care about, it seems you're projecting all this like I really should but I can't relate to it. I don't need to "move on", I am not locked out and don't need to feature a narrative like that for my future.

Yeah, that's a misread. The "move on" bit was more about the only sensible scenario for like-minded people, who share the view that they don't want Steinberg as the permanent server middle-man. IE I'll say I don't like this now, but if there's no change then I will move on too.. Ultimately you have to make the best of things as you can, and find what suits you.. On that we appear to agree

edit to add

I don't know the dongle I bought last Fri won't outlive me.

Absolutely. But the difference is you can try to find another one on Ebay if it doesn't. Good luck trying that with Steinberg's servers..

[LeVzi]

How about an option “I don’t ****ing care what licensing method my DAW uses because it has nothing to do with how I make music in it” ?

Oh yeah? It's x years later. You want to revisit that song you made. Maybe it's to remix. Maybe you got a surround sound system and it's time to do a surround mix. Maybe it's just to see what sound or effect was used, because it'd be exactly right for something else.

You go to edit the file with the software you paid a perpetual license for, but Yamaha's Cloud service doesn't exist, or is now demanding a new fee for access. Now please tell me how it doesn't impact "anything"..

Get your stems out, get a flash drive, save there, job done

[PAK]

Get your stems out, get a flash drive, save there, job done

Hehe. Yeah, that's pretty much what it'll come down to. And midi, and insert/send chain notes. Bleh. Any ideas for automation? Also track presets etc.. PG Unify, BlueCats Patchwork? etc?

[noiseboyuk]

Get your stems out, get a flash drive, save there, job done

Hehe. Yeah, that's pretty much what it'll come down to. And midi, and insert/send chain notes. Bleh. Any ideas for automation? Also track presets etc.. PG Unify, BlueCats Patchwork? etc?

You can't beat stems (and indeed individual tracks).

There's always at least one old plugin missing if I go back far enough. it becomes impossible to maintain literally everything for decades. So - render WAVs. Storage is dirt cheap now.

[vurt]

i purge my system of all audio (except samples) every few months.
its very liberating

once it's gone, its gone.
the added benefit, that i didn't expect, when a system crashed last xmas, other than being pissed off for two days unable to actually do anything, i was ok.
in the past when i use to save stuff, that would have pissed me off for months

not for everyone i know, but im sharing my personal experience so there!

[vurt]

This is a troll poll, because in now way having a change of authentication a good reason to change to another DAW.

it also has no fish option.

That's old kvr.

Speaking of which what happened to all those guys? Kriminal, ttoz, pough, bonteburg, phz etc...

krim got banned returned as anx.
ttoz threw a wobbler and gave up music after buying and selling everything 20 or so times.
pough is still about.
bonte popped in not too long ago, just to say he wasn't dead from covid.
and phz got pissed off being a mod i think?

[jancivil]

Where do you get the impression I need you or someone else as my mirror.

Your words came across as "because this isn't a problem for me, it isn't a problem.. period".

That's your interpretation and it's about you, not about me or the way I approach anything.
This was an unnecesary load of crap you laid on me for having a different opinion regarding a type of key for the program. The point, my life is too short for caring like you care, about a trivial concern afaic. Note well the distinction as far as I'm concerned. For me. To me. Which I stated more than once.
I'm having a great time with music regardless of having outlived myself.

Again, the vibe of malcontent is strong here in these threads, my priority is music, period.

[PAK]

. This was an unnecesary load of crap you laid on me for having a different opinion

I'm ok with you holding whichever opinion you want. If you saw anything else then it's not the intent. I'm not so keen on some of the language used to describe others who happen to hold different views. Think that's my issue of interpretation instead of yours? Great! As you said, let's move on..

Again, the vibe of malcontent is strong here in these threads, my priority is music, period.

Ok. So why participate on such a thread? To gripe about gripers? My reason is I've been on the wrong end of purchases having their servers taken offline, and I think Steinberg's insistance, on holding your permanent activation key, is prone to "problems".. and may come back to bite users at some point. What's that about those who ignore history? You don't care about any of it? Fantastic. Steinberg will be glad to hear it.

[ramseysounds]

@PAK just stick with fruity loops.

Seriously, I wonder how many people here complaining, actually have / use Cubase? I do and to be honest, if it goes to online once a month phone home authorisation, so what

First world problems at its finest

[PAK]

Excellent counterpoints. I can see you've thought things through. Well done..

First world problems indeed

[VitaminD]

This is a troll poll, because in now way having a change of authentication a good reason to change to another DAW.

it also has no fish option.

That's old kvr.

Speaking of which what happened to all those guys? Kriminal, ttoz, pough, bonteburg, phz etc...

krim got banned returned as anx.
ttoz threw a wobbler and gave up music after buying and selling everything 20 or so times.
pough is still about.
bonte popped in not too long ago, just to say he wasn't dead from covid.
and phz got pissed off being a mod i think?

Ahhhh!

There is so many of the oldkvr that disappeared. And I wonder if they still write music or gave it up? I find it interesting to think we all shared this little space and thoughts some 20 years ago, distant memories still all in our minds carried about wherever and whatever our lives look like now.

I actually had forgotten about ttoz's buying frenzies. He was alright though.

[cptgone]

There is so many of the oldkvr that disappeared.

They must have lost their dongle

[_leras]

This is a troll poll, because in now way having a change of authentication a good reason to change to another DAW.

We don't all have the same set-up, we don't all have the same facilities and services. It won't stop me using Cubase, but I'm really not happy if I have to rely on internet to authenticate it. I can see a scenario where the wrong authentification would actually stop me using a DAW. Very easily in fact.

Yeah there's hyperbole and angry men, but I think you fail to recognise that for a minority, it's a big deal potentially what authentification is used. I can manage if they go internet authorisation but I much prefer a dongle - if the net drops out I'm sweet and carry on making music. If the mobile coverage goes I'm sweet. If the power drops out then any authentication is moot - by the way, we have regular power outs here in NZ which is supposedly 1st world (a side issue...but again, don't assume we all have the same facilities), but - a dongle just works until your dongle doesn' t work. Internet only works until your internet doesn't work...

Gosh you Kiwis like a whinge. Remote studio in the middle of paradise and three pages of whinge about dongles!

I'm pretty sure they'll do the one year activation period and also allow offline authorisation. So you should be ok.

Personally not too fussed. Dongle works fine. Online authorisation also fine by me these days. I'm less worried about my computer being connected and more worried about making sure I back up correctly.

[jancivil]

anyway, I would like to say something positive about the Cubase. 11.0.0. Under Big Sur it's been 100% stable on the same project that used to crash inexplicably doing practically nothing. It works, so it's a great f**king DAW today. I may even try to update it to one of the "maintenance" updates.
Also, Steinberg replaced my license on the SZDT after one business week. VSL replaced 89 licenses by the next morning and I reported it at night. Friday night at that.
I was sweating ZDT. I saw someone with C11 Pro for 250USD at Buy & Sell here, and I was asking myself do I have it.

SB told me it would be a few months before I could pull this again and they reserve the right to say 'get lost'. Which is more generous than it was in 2017, which was 'this is it, pal'.

[jancivil]

FTR, to me, leaping on every opp to bitch about copy protection reveals serious entitlement 'tude. this is a personal opinion, nb.