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SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 3:14 pm

A 'new' Absynth would be something nothing like Absynth... something that makes new types of complex sounds and looks weird like Absynth did when It was launched. or anything before...maybe Generate or one of those new fangled Tracktion Instruments like Biotech....

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:17 pm

foosnark wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:06 pm Yeah, Vital can be fun but it's more of a slight tangent from from Serum than it is the new Absynth.

It seems like it's just become standard to recommend Vital in every instrument thread nowadays. "oh, you're looking for a baby grand piano? Have you tried Vital?" It's become the Reaper of instruments.

But, I digress. Something tells me we'll never see a new Absynth. It doesn't seem to be the hot item that, for instance, Battery and Massive are, and the originator is no longer with NI. I could be totally wrong, but I can't imagine that NI would put a lot of resources into a new version unless there was some indication that it would be a hot seller for them. It's a pretty niche-y type of synth, not a dubstep staple or something. But, what do I know?

Magic Russ · Post by **Magic Russ** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:18 pm

Absynth is still one of the deepest synthesizers out there.

But it could really use newer and better filters.
And I wouldn't mind having a delay available as one of the channel effects.

jules99 · Post by **jules99** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:37 pm

The things that made and (still makes) Absynth so unique are the many ways this synth was different in so many ways all at once. Morph waves, draw your own waves, endless MSEGs where each point (!) could get an LFO, five effects with the Aetherizer being the star that sound nothing like anything else, a preset mutator where you can select a variety of presets and have Absynth mutate everything (or, if you so desire, just oscillator 1 and filter 2 or just the wavshapers or just the effect section) into the direction of those sounds, unusual synthesis types like ring modulation and "Fractalize" and the fact that it was one of the first virtual instruments that you could use natively in a 5.1 production.

A next Absynth would mean an instrument that equally challenges many standard ways of how we think of synthesizers. And it would have to bring its own sonic character. Which, when Absynth came out, was almost unheard of: a virtual instrument with its own sonic character.

"Generate" does belong there, but the effects are very basic and the modulation is pretty standard. Its oscillators and filters do sound very unique.

If NI were to ever update Absynth (which I honestly doubt if you look at their product line in the last few years), version 6 would indeed need an updated GUI and better sounding filters. Also, MPE would need to be deeply integrated. Also, the granular engine would need to be modernized, Pigments has set a standard here, where Absynth's engine falls behind.

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:18 pm

Magic Russ wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:18 pm Absynth is still one of the deepest synthesizers out there.

But it could really use newer and better filters.
And I wouldn't mind having a delay available as one of the channel effects.

the multi tap w/ up to a ten second delay buffer not enough for you ?..

AnX · Post by **AnX** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:31 pm

experimental.crow wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:18 pm
Magic Russ wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:18 pm Absynth is still one of the deepest synthesizers out there.

But it could really use newer and better filters.
And I wouldn't mind having a delay available as one of the channel effects.
the multi tap w/ up to a ten second delay buffer not enough for you ?..

Needs to go to eleven...

experimental.crow · Post by **experimental.crow** » Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:42 pm

AnX wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:31 pm
experimental.crow wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:18 pm
Magic Russ wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:18 pm Absynth is still one of the deepest synthesizers out there.

But it could really use newer and better filters.
And I wouldn't mind having a delay available as one of the channel effects.
the multi tap w/ up to a ten second delay buffer not enough for you ?..
Needs to go to eleven...

Magic Russ · Post by **Magic Russ** » Wed Dec 15, 2021 11:29 pm

experimental.crow wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 5:18 pm
Magic Russ wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:18 pm Absynth is still one of the deepest synthesizers out there.

But it could really use newer and better filters.
And I wouldn't mind having a delay available as one of the channel effects.
the multi tap w/ up to a ten second delay buffer not enough for you ?..

For some of my pads I like to have a pluck sound fed into a delay layered on a sound with a slower attack, and feed that all into more modulation. Basically I want a delay on one sound and the aetherizer on both. Unless they rework the multi-tap to process so that each tap can be applied or not to any of the channels, then multi-tap won't work for that purpose.

midi_transmission · Post by **midi_transmission** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:03 am

cryophonik wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 4:17 pm
foosnark wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 1:06 pm Yeah, Vital can be fun but it's more of a slight tangent from from Serum than it is the new Absynth.
It seems like it's just become standard to recommend Vital in every instrument thread nowadays. "oh, you're looking for a baby grand piano? Have you tried Vital?" It's become the Reaper of instruments.

Vital looks certainly great, but the whole online account thing puts me off. Can't see something like this as an alternative.

crickey13 · Post by **crickey13** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 7:15 am

midi_transmission wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:03 am Vital looks certainly great, but the whole online account thing puts me off. Can't see something like this as an alternative.

You can work with it offline just fine. The online account is for updates, additional wavetables and presets. The only thing you need your internet connection for is the text to wavetable function.

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:26 pm

cptgone wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:32 am Also, didn't Brian Clevinger (Absynth's creator) leave NI?

Brian Clevinger, the creator of Absynth, started his own company a while back called Rhizomatic Software Synthesis. His first new instrument is called Plasmonic. $99 thru Dec 31st. https://rhizomatic.fr/index.php/plasmonic/

https://markmoshermusic.com/2020/11/14/ ... interview/

gentleclockdivider · Post by **gentleclockdivider** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:57 pm

zzz00m wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:26 pm
cptgone wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:32 am Also, didn't Brian Clevinger (Absynth's creator) leave NI?
Brian Clevinger, the creator of Absynth, started his own company a while back called Rhizomatic Software Synthesis. His first new instrument is called Plasmonic. $99 thru Dec 31st. https://rhizomatic.fr/index.php/plasmonic/

https://markmoshermusic.com/2020/11/14/ ... interview/

Rhizomatic has been well over 2 decades old

https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/na ... ts-absynth

Kalamata Kid · Post by **Kalamata Kid** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:57 pm

IIRC his next plugin will be sample based and will likely be more like Absynth. Again IIRC Brian stated that Plasmonic is not Absynth like.

Edit:
I can't wait for Brian's next plugin which I will very likely buy!

I have given up ALL hope of an Absynth 6 release.

muki · Post by **muki** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 5:45 pm

the original absynth was from october 2000 iirc
standalone, mac only iirc

zzz00m · Post by **zzz00m** » Thu Dec 16, 2021 10:13 pm

gentleclockdivider wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:57 pm
zzz00m wrote: Thu Dec 16, 2021 3:26 pm
cptgone wrote: Fri Dec 10, 2021 11:32 am Also, didn't Brian Clevinger (Absynth's creator) leave NI?
Brian Clevinger, the creator of Absynth, started his own company a while back called Rhizomatic Software Synthesis. His first new instrument is called Plasmonic. $99 thru Dec 31st. https://rhizomatic.fr/index.php/plasmonic/

https://markmoshermusic.com/2020/11/14/ ... interview/

Rhizomatic has been well over 2 decades old

I didn't write that part of my comment, just quoted it from the interview link that I posted. Anyway, that is correct it was a while back, just way, way back!

What is the new Absynth?