FL Studio over Reaper?

[xbitz]

Why would you want to do that if Reaper is already working for you? Especially if you need to be convinced?

Anyways, I'll try to chime in on my experience with FL Studio.

- Step Sequencer is pretty neat for drums. Can add swing to your drums almost instantaneously
...

sequencer view of Bitwig able to handle multiple nested levels

by clicking on container clips so I would say it's more useful, playing with FL, and just wanted to mention it (for non BWS users, the red rectangle around the drums track at the top is an autogenerated meta/container clip)

[xbitz]

oops

[saint_william]

I actually have customized the Reaper piano roll to be very similar to FL studio. I went from hating it to it being my favorite.

I’ve done a bunch of customization on my Reaper piano roll but have not got it to feel like FL.

What kind of changes did you make?

(Maybe this would be a good thread…)

[Igro]

Yeah, midi editing in FL is something. I never knew it before, but after trying it, it's just too hard to consider my previous DAWs again.

[sQeetz]

Another possible factor is that maybe it’s more difficult than you think to program a piano roll interface. Kind of reminds me of super Mario bros. The original game is so simple. Seems like there’s nothing to it. But then you look at the hundreds of rip offs, across many systems, and I’ll be damned if only a very few of them come close to having the same feel as smb1. Maybe there’s just some finesse here.

gol, the guy who invented FL and programmed its piano roll, was originally a game designer. And he designed and programmed FL like it was a game, too.
Maybe that's the reason.

[musicproducerdee]

Hey, are you the same xbitz by any chance, who created the Darkest Knight theme on FL Studio Forums?

sry just have seen your comment, yepp



I still use it, what is the problem? luckily they fixed the visibility of the menus in 21.0.3

no problems, was just curious

They have been fixing quite a few things. They now have colored waveforms.

"Colored waveforms - General settings option to color code frequency content in audio waveforms. This applies to the Browser, Playlist, Sampler Channel etc."

Also, they added a new plug-in - Hyper Chorus. And a declipper mode in Edison (powered by IZotope ).

[MJACau]

use FL Studio as a VST inside REAPER. done.

It works really well too.

[Kalamata Kid]

^^^
Can you drag and drop or copy and paste from FLS to DAW and from DAW to FLS?
Love Patcher, PianoRoll and Channel Rack! And it is multi-touch capable. Too bad no ARA.

For a while I have been thinking of using Unify per track in Reaper or Studio One.
Here are the possibilities of the plugins to use per track.

Unify
FL Studio with Patcher
Architect when ready
Bidule
Mulab
Freestyle
Kushview Element https://kushview.net/

All the above are plugins that can host plugins and they all have a modular environment.
I am having trouble deciding

[pdxindy]

For a while I have been thinking of using Unify per track in Reaper or Studio One.
Here are the possibilities of the plugins to use per track.

Choose none of them...

Either Reaper or Studio One has plenty of capability. Just use one DAW of choice and get on with it. No need to add more layers of complexity.

[Kalamata Kid]

Yes that is certainly a valid choice.
I really like to use a modular environment per tack which allows me to experiment with routing.
Also the modular environment allows me to see and easily edit the environment.

[xbitz]

^^^"I would start the demo with Voltage2 modular environment.


It has a state similar to what Bitwig had before the MSEG update(has zillions of CV-based modulation devices except MSEG ones). Therefore, it requires a third-party MSEG plugin (like Gatekeeper) for efficient functionality. Additionally, it features MIDI learn, allowing plugin opening to be bound to a keyboard shortcut


from 12:10

VCV2 also has a VST plugin host just not too reliable and needs too many clicks for handling it

from 12:30 but looks nicer

https://cherryaudio.com/products/voltage-modular and https://store.cherryaudio.com/modules/plug-in-host and https://store.cherryaudio.com/modules/remote-control
or
https://vcvrack.com/ and https://vcvrack.com/Host
or
Bitwig

[sjm]

The thing about FL piano roll that has always puzzled me the most is that it really is not that special. Sure, there's a lot of features, but for the most part you can just poke with mouse, perhaps with ctrl/alt/shift modifiers to do the basics. Rather it's more like the piano rolls of most other DAWs were intentionally designed to be as inconvenient as possible.

That's it in a nutshell. The FL Studio PR is like graphics software, where left click paints and right deletes/paints the background colour. Other DAWs all want to link the right mouse button to a context menu, which really kills the flow if you are using the PR to actually enter parts from scratch.

That's probably not the case, but I think what really makes FL's piano roll "special" is that someone clearly thought about usability, rather than just features.

I think that a lot of this is actually down to the assumption that the typical use case would be to record something using a MIDI keyboard, and then just make minor adjustments after the fact - fixing a few bum notes, tightening the timing where necessary. For those use cases, the fact that you can't "paint" as easily in the PR is not such a big deal. To continue the graphics software analogy, the FL Studio PR is for artists who want to create digital art from scratch using a mouse, while other DAWs are more like image manipulation tools that help you get the best out of something that you've already created and just want to touch up.

[Kalamata Kid]

^^^"I would start the demo with Voltage2 modular environment.


It has a state similar to what Bitwig had before the MSEG update(has zillions of CV-based modulation devices except MSEG ones). Therefore, it requires a third-party MSEG plugin (like Gatekeeper) for efficient functionality. Additionally, it features MIDI learn, allowing plugin opening to be bound to a keyboard shortcut


from 12:10

VCV2 also has a VST plugin host just not too reliable and needs too many clicks for handling it

from 12:30 but looks nicer

https://cherryaudio.com/products/voltage-modular and https://store.cherryaudio.com/modules/plug-in-host and https://store.cherryaudio.com/modules/remote-control
or
https://vcvrack.com/ and https://vcvrack.com/Host
or
Bitwig

The modular environment I can use per track must be able to host VST's. So I need a VST plugin that can host VST's.

[THE INTRANCER]

I don't believe it unless the OP can prove it. Who has a commercial unused license of FL Studio and continues to use Reaper?

[liquidsound]

^^^"I would start the demo with Voltage2 modular environment.


It has a state similar to what Bitwig had before the MSEG update(has zillions of CV-based modulation devices except MSEG ones). Therefore, it requires a third-party MSEG plugin (like Gatekeeper) for efficient functionality. Additionally, it features MIDI learn, allowing plugin opening to be bound to a keyboard shortcut


from 12:10

VCV2 also has a VST plugin host just not too reliable and needs too many clicks for handling it

from 12:30 but looks nicer

https://cherryaudio.com/products/voltage-modular and https://store.cherryaudio.com/modules/plug-in-host and https://store.cherryaudio.com/modules/remote-control
or
https://vcvrack.com/ and https://vcvrack.com/Host
or
Bitwig

The modular environment I can use per track must be able to host VST's. So I need a VST plugin that can host VST's.

That would be MuLab. It can be load as a VST and you can load VST within its modular environment. It’s quite more than just a modular loader. It’s a DAW primarily. A great one!
Check it out. There is a free demo.