KVR Audio

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:07 am

Trancer wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:46 pm For the moment I have an Access Virus TI2 and a Nord Lead A1, an Akai Force.

Congrats on getting the Force! Minitaur will be great with that setup. No interest in a 303?

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:08 am

Etienne1973 wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:43 pm Some Waldorf flavor? I always liked their synths' distinctive sound character. Modern Classics.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:14 am

Trancer wrote: Mon Sep 11, 2023 9:31 pm Too bad not a synth like the Roland SE-02, but in normal size.

Studio Electronics SE-3X
Studio Electronics MIDIMINI V30
Studio Electronics 8106
Roland System-8
Roland JD-XA
UDO Super 6 or Super Gemini

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:27 am

Thank you very much for your responses and opinions. In fact, I don't really have any knowledge of analog, but I would like to advance in this world.

I would like to get a Moog Minitaur, but I have absolutely no idea how to calibrate it, also from a handling point of view and in relation to hearing.

Could you explain to me how to calibrate it and in relation to hearing what sound/frequency I should hear to know that the calibration is good, thank you in advance.

Studio Electronics a marvel, the price too

. Concerning System 8, vsts in a box which controls them, now it's true what doesn't come out at all. The JD XA is a Hybrid solution. Regarding the Uno and the latest model from this company, is the reliability there for both the hardware and the machine operating software ?

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:38 pm

Strange, the Studio Electronics Tonestars are still relatively cheap but the Boomstar versions have shot up in price. I guess you’ll need to build a Eurorack!

Anyway, I only sent you that list as full-sized alternatives to the SE-02. I actually think MatrixBrute or PolyBrute would be the way for you to go. PolyBrute is a beauty.

cryophonik · Post by **cryophonik** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 2:40 pm

Trancer wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:27 am Minitaur…Could you explain to me how to calibrate it and in relation to hearing what sound/frequency I should hear to know that the calibration is good, thank you in advance.

Download the free editor from Moog, start the calibration, wait a few minutes, done.

You are overthinking the whole calibration thing. If you buy a modern analog, the calibration will be easy and you don’t need to do very often.

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:02 pm

Thank you for your answers.

A certain price anyway depending on the models.

https://www.thomann.de/be/studio_electr ... x_2019.htm

https://www.thomann.de/be/studio_electronics_se_3x.htm

https://www.thomann.de/be/studio_electr ... ni_v30.htm

There were the filter modules, but there are new ones only in modular form, so not for me.

Regarding the Polybrute, what bothers me is the more than questionable quality of the keyboard for this price.

Arturia should have taken inspiration from the excellent keyboard of the Virus ti2, a reference in the field.

Otherwise it is true that Polybrute is not bad.

It’s true, calibration obsesses me a little, most certainly an error on my part.

So with the Moog software, calibration will not pose a problem and nothing to do other than use the Moog software ?

sin night · Post by **sin night** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:42 pm

I can confirm, you only need to open the editor, press the calibration button and wait for the Minitaur to do its thing. I think the editor actually sends a sysex to instruct the Minitaur to start the calibration process and those sysex are avaible somewhere.
I don't use my Minitaur often nowadays (I prefer playing the GM), but I rarely felt the need to run the tuning calibration in all these years (I bought mine in 2014). In my experience, the calibration is really needed only if the instrument is not tracking properly; otherwise (if the instrument is a little flat or sharp in a consistent way) you can just use the global tuning knob on the front panel. I rarely touch that knob.

Modern synths are quite stable... in my experience, modern polysynths are more likely to require a tuning routine once in a while (or even more often) than modern monosynths...

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 5:47 pm

TI2 lacks the Morphée and ribbon controllers. A big ribbon can be awesome for volume swells, wouldn’t that be good for trance?

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:55 pm

Thanks a lot for your answers.

Perfect for the editor, excellent news.

Regarding the Virus TI2, I was talking about the excellent quality of the keyboard, which is very far from being the case with the Polybrute.

Yet a relatively identical price.

An unfortunate choice from Arturia.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 9:58 pm

Trancer wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:55 pm Regarding the Virus TI2, I was talking about the excellent quality of the keyboard, which is very far from being the case with the Polybrute.

Yet a relatively identical price.

Adjust for inflation.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 10:27 pm

Trancer wrote: Fri Sep 15, 2023 8:55 pm Regarding the Virus TI2, I was talking about the excellent quality of the keyboard, which is very far from being the case with the Polybrute.

Yet a relatively identical price.

A foam mattress is more expensive than an HDTV. Different technologies have different costs. Analog is in general going to be more than digital, especially now that you can get a Virus C on your computer for free. The PolyBrute's keyboard isn't the best, but it's not terrible. Better than the old KingKORG, if memory serves. The sound is awesome, though, and it's 24 db ladder filter sounds like an analog 24 db ladder filter, which is quite unlike the Virus's crap model.

I'm seeing a pattern here. Many people seem to be making good suggestions, and then you spend your time shooting them all down. I don't even think you want a new synth, you just want to argue. Maybe someone at KVR hired you to drive up traffic? Maybe you're trying to make your current choices seem like they're the best? No idea, but I think it would benefit everyone if they left this thread and let you fend for yourself.

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:37 pm

Regarding the zerocrossing comments.

You should already learn respect.

Second, if it doesn't suit you, simply move on and answer somewhere else where you will feel better.

Three, in fact, I have had excellent advice and opinions from the community, no I am not hired by anyone, I do not reject what I am told, I analyze.

Just that I take as much advice as possible to make the best decision.

To conclude regarding you, a forum is an exchange, fortunately there are people with a different mentality than yours which is very narrow.

To meditate

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Fri Sep 15, 2023 11:53 pm

Well, take it as constructive criticism. There are probably others who've thought similar things and just didn't say anything about it. I mean, not meeee, of course. I would neeeeevvvveer do that...

Trancer · Post by **Trancer** » Sat Sep 16, 2023 12:01 am

Thank you for your message Oncle E.

There is a minimum of respect to be had normally( I'm talking about zerocrossing ).

If I don't like a topic or something else, I just don't respond to it and move on.

Apparently he is well informed and knows everything about everything, but I doubt it.

Asking questions and seeking the opinions of others is simply a normal basic act, quite simply an enriching evolution and learning from others.

Anyway, let's move on.

If you still wish to respond to post, I will be happy.

Missing a synth to complete my set.