Audiority Chief Chorus - Vintage BBD Chorus (AAX, AU, CLAP, VST2, VST3)

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

No, I meant to bring up the CH-1. Because it's also a coral blue chorus from BOSS, and some people may get it confused with the CE-2. I did a long time ago. That's why I own one.

Chorus pedals legally need to be blue.

Now I'm wondering if the Audiority Chief Chorus's stereo matches the CE-2w's stereo output.

No it doesn't. The Chief Chorus is true stereo (two out of phase LFOs, one on each stereo channel). The CE-2w has the CE-1 style of stereo where one output is the chorus signal the other is completely dry. Which the Chorus Ensembler emulation from Audiority does. Maybe Audiority can add it as a mode to Chief Chorus, but honestly, I much prefer a true stereo chorus like we have here to the fake CE-1 style.

But, going back to the 80s for a second, I understand why they weren't going to have 2 different BBDs with 2 LFOs (or LFO phases) in those early chorus pedals. Cost was probably a big factor along with circuit complexity. Not to mention, who was really running stereo rigs outside of a studio back then?

[jamcat]

Yeah, I saw what you said and realised the Chief Chorus stereo is different than Waza CE-2w stereo. I edited my post to reflect my belated understanding, but I was too late.

My theory is that BOSS chose that particular turquoise shade because it is also known as "coral blue" (after the particular shade of blue coral.) And choral / coral. But maybe the Roland/BOSS people weren't that clever and it's just a coincidence. But that would be a really big coincidence.

[mothra]

The CH-1s are a much paler 'baby blue' color compared to the 'aqua' of the CE's. The CE-3 is a darker almost turquoise color compared to the CE-2 even. Maybe that's just what happens to the paint after 40 years?

I've got one of the older analog CH-1s that thing is terrible heh. No matter what I do, it just sounds like the crappy chorus that came built into every solid state amp in the 80s/90s. My BF-2 handles 'chorus' duties.

[metalifuxx]

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My BF-2 handles 'chorus' duties.

I got my BF-2 when i got back into and became obsessive with pedal fx again, the aim for buying and finding analog pedals instead of using an old Zoom 1010 multi fx. Since then, i tried just about every classic vintage based chorus pedal, and returned or sold them after a short while…big box EHX Small Clone, Boss CH-1 (digital), BBE Mind Bender, Catalinbread Calisto, Carl Martin Chorus v1 (a boss CE-1). I think i finally told myself i really don’t have a use or like chorus as much as i thought or felt a need for it to take up space on my board, when the BF-2 can do a unique Boss style chorus and also do leslie-esque rotary sounds , which either one of those ways is how i have had it set, but it also does some of the best flanger sounds if needed as well. On the other hand, i have about 5-6 phaser pedals that all do different kinds of phasing, one being the Dry Bell Vibe and which can do the true photocell univibe or its take on vibrato too. Yet, again, I’m still thinking maybe if i just get a Boss CE-2 Waza, it might satisfy that empty chorus pedal need/void in my head lol. But i should probably just get a dedicated quality Leslie pedal before a regular analog chorus pedal.

[jamcat]

Everyone needs at least one good chorus pedal. Especially if they play bass.

[mothra]

I got the CH-1 just because it was cheap and in the area but it's just not for me. I do love Alex Lifeson's CE-1 tone though..
When I finally figured out that all my favorite guitarists that used 'chorus' like John McKay, Geordie Walker, etc were actually using flangers, that was it for me. The BF-2 is the sound of The Cure and can do a somewhat convincing Killing Joke sound. Hooky's bass tone on Joy Division's 24 Hours was an EHX Electric Mistress I believe.

Still on the fence with the MXR though. I can't get it very 'subtle' and sounding like McKay, it just does the jet plane swoosh for me. I always end up going back to the good old Boss.

[jamcat]

I got the CH-1 just because it was cheap and in the area but it's just not for me. I do love Alex Lifeson's CE-1 tone though..
When I finally figured out that all my favorite guitarists that used 'chorus' like John McKay, Geordie Walker, etc were actually using flangers, that was it for me. The BF-2 is the sound of The Cure and can do a somewhat convincing Killing Joke sound. Hooky's bass tone on Joy Division's 24 Hours was an EHX Electric Mistress I believe.

Still on the fence with the MXR though. I can't get it very 'subtle' and sounding like McKay, it just does the jet plane swoosh for me. I always end up going back to the good old Boss.

John McGeoch used an MXR 117 flanger too. That was actually his only effect, aside from the chorus in his JazzChorus. The MXR flanger is the sound of the Banshees on Juju. Keep in mind that a great many post-punk guitarists used the JC-120, including John McGeoch, Robert Smith, John Valentine Carruthers, Johnny Marr, etc, and had quite a lot of chorus going on all the time from its built-in CE-1.

Robert Smith used a BF-2 in the early to mid '90s, for sure. I'm pretty sure that's a BF-2 on This Twilight Garden. He also used a CH-1 around that time, so you're still in good company if you have one.

Robert also used the MXR flanger from his time in the Banshees. He actually inherited John McGeoch's pedal.

But Robert will use whatever makes a sound he likes in the studio. He's pretty agnostic that way. Disintegration is unmistakably an Electric Mistress on the guitars. Though I think they were all played by Porl, and Robert played the Fender VI 6-string bass, which is 90% of the "guitar" on the album. But you can distinctly hear Electric Mistress on Last Dance and Fascination Street.

17 Seconds was full of both chorus and flanger, and it may have included a BF-2, which was released that year. But according to Mike Hedges, there were about 7 different chorus and flangers on everything. You can be sure the popular MXR flanger of the day was one of them, as was an Eventide Instant Flanger.

I got heavily into choruses and flangers on the album. I basically collected every single flanger and chorus I could find anywhere in the studio and borrowed them from people with new units, and for 'A Forest' I think we had as many as seven flangers running on 'envelope', flanging on the shape of the sound coming in rather than as a constant. Aside from bass and guitars, you can particularly hear it on the cymbal crashes, which dive away immediately following the hits. You see, Robert was heavily into choruses — he had a JC120, and so if you had a U47 on one speaker of the amp and a 57 on the other, you then had a stereo chorus, which was great. We loved the chorus, and because of that I originally started playing flangers to do choruses until I realised that flangers were fantastic as well, at which point we actually started using the flangers as flangers. These made the overall sound slightly warped — nothing was quite natural, adding to the underlying atmosphere.

Classic Tracks: The Cure 'A Forest'

[mothra]

Now the Instant Flanger is one I really wish I could get my hands on. I LOVE that plugin hah. The phaser not so much but the flanger ooooooooh yeah!

[cptgone]

Modulation pedals I'd love to have in the box:

- ThorpyFX Pulse Doppler
A powerful and versatile phaser/vibrato, designed with the Lovetone guy whose Doppelganger its loosely based on.
Can get tremolo-like or vibe-like.
Its dual notches and phase modulation settings toggle can do an amazing throbbing cadence.

- Fairfield Circuits Shallow Water
A pretty unique chorus. Can do amazing stuff, highly inspirational.

Also, many fuzz[y] pedals would be an instabuy for me (Bogner, Fulltone, Catalinbread, Trombetta, Beetronics, zvex...).

[vitocorleone123]

Now the Instant Flanger is one I really wish I could get my hands on. I LOVE that plugin hah. The phaser not so much but the flanger ooooooooh yeah!

Im the opposite- never use the flanger but often use the phaser. Don’t really like flangers in general.

[DCrown]

Instant Phaser I use sometimes, but not in love with it. Instant Flanger or ADA Flanger I don't like at all.
I had Roland Stereo Flanger SBF-325,
very cool flanger and chorus. It gets rarely mentioned, that's why I add links

https://www.vintagedigital.com.au/rolan ... o-flanger/

https://captain-guitar-lounge.com/produ ... 5-id-2632/

and BOSS BF-2 is awesome

[jamcat]

What do we want?
BF-2!

When do we want it?
Before Easter!

[Audiority]

We need a properly modeled Crybaby first before we can talk about any other wahs.

We just released one as PolyChrome DSP here That's based on a classic Dunlop with some mods.
Enjoy!

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I never understood the one developer / two brands thing. Is Polychrome a collaboration with others? Just a different design philosophy so a way to differentiate the brands? Is it a tax dodge*?

*If it's a tax dodge, don't admit to it!

[Agreed]

"Get it free! with purchase of $149 software suite" did make me chuckle a bit - not hating, you've given us some legendary quality freebies under the Audiority brand, and if the Crybaby model is as good as your work usually is I bet the $29 is well spent for people wanting a good classic wah ITB, I just don't like that kind of marketing approach personally where you click the button that says free but it turns out you're still a purchase away from the finish line. I am curious about the dual brands too!