Is Pitch correction an effect?

[Dirtgrain]

My vocabulary is as bad as, like, whatever.

[Jac459]

"we should use all the f**king tools we have to make the best music possible and stop creating ourselves philosophical limitations"...

OK, but if your definition of the best possible music is: that which lets the singer's real personality, the singer's authentic existence (with their abilities and flaws), shine through?

'If.'
It's not a universal definition, though.

Who said it was universal? In any case, this definition is certainly not ridiculous, and is probably shared by a number of people... (Doesn't mean it's my personal opinion, btw )
My point was precisely to put into perspective the overly clear-cut opinion of Jac459.

But I meant this opinion as clear-cut but also open.
You can use it or not. It is a choice. But if you choose to use it, it doesn't make your music lesser in my opinion.

It reminds me a wine-making story I read. There was apparently a trend 15 years ago to have a wood taste on the red wine (because some New-York famous critic decided wine with wood taste is better)... In order to do so in France, due to regulation, you need to conserve the wine during the wine making progress in big wood container. It is very costly because much more difficult to do and maintain than aluminium containers.

Australian don't have this issue. There isn't such regulation, so you keep your aluminium container, you add wood in the container and you filter after.

This is simple, the result is as good.

Does it mean Australian wine is less good because it wasn't done the old way? I don't think so.
Yet some people will prefer buy only French wine for the assurance of the way it was done. I think that it is ok also.

Everybody is free with its own preferences.

[cron]

I guess it's down to the person listening. Is the difference between an 'effect' and a 'tool' simply whether or not its modifications are directly audible? With that in mind, I'd be curious to know if any players have noticed pitch correction on their instrument when they're listening to music.

Read quite an interesting take from a producer a while back saying that pitch correction is even more prevalent than most people think it is. IIRC he was talking about how he regularly gets criticism for retuning vocals, but he's never been criticised for having 8 instances of Auto Tune massaging every player in the string section. Everyone is a skilled listener with voice, but the only way to become a skilled listener with an instrument is to play it.

And so... have any players noticed this on their instrument, and if so, do you perceive the same artifacts registering as 'effect-like' that most people can hear on vocals (even when intended to go unnoticed?)