Studio One 7.0 Predictions

[jamcat]

No, it just sounds like you guys are using the wrong DAW. You should be using Bitwig. Studio One is meant for tracking live musicians.

Studio One is in the Pro Tools/Nuendo/Sequoia category, not the Ableton/Bitwig/Fruity Loops category.

No, Studio One is for anyone in whatever way they wish to use it, therefor there is no wrong DAW.

Sure they can use it as it is for whatever they want to try to do with it. But they shouldn’t make demands for things it doesn’t have to do things it’s not meant to do.

PreSonus is and always has been a live sound company. Same for Fender. Think about who their user bases are, and then realise that Studio One is geared towards the same user base, and will continue to be so.

I’m just trying to help out the people who keep wanting to fit a square peg in a round hole. Maybe Studio One wasn’t just wasn’t made for them. But Bitwig was.

Instead of going in to Pete Lugar’s steak house and demanding they serve you a Happy Meal, just go to McDonald’s instead.

[THE INTRANCER]

No, it just sounds like you guys are using the wrong DAW. You should be using Bitwig. Studio One is meant for tracking live musicians.

Studio One is in the Pro Tools/Nuendo/Sequoia category, not the Ableton/Bitwig/Fruity Loops category.

No, Studio One is for anyone in whatever way they wish to use it, therefor there is no wrong DAW.

Sure they can use it as it is for whatever they want to try to do with it. But they shouldn’t make demands for things it doesn’t have to do things it’s not meant to do.

PreSonus is and always has been a live sound company. Same for Fender. Think about who their user bases are, and then realise that Studio One is geared towards the same user base, and will continue to be so.

I’m just trying to help out the people who keep wanting to fit a square peg in a round hole. Maybe Studio One wasn’t just wasn’t made for them. But Bitwig was.

Instead of going in to Pete Lugar’s steak house and demanding they serve you a Happy Meal, just go to McDonald’s instead.

All DAWs develop and evolve whilst in constant development and share different features and functions as the user base requests them. Some features will be unique to certain DAWs or more suited due to their capabilities or a particular way of working but when it comes to creating music, there is no wrong DAW. If you want to bring in stuff created in Bitwg Studio into Studio One for example, then you could do this in several different ways.

[jamcat]

Exactly. So there’s no reason for PreSonus to turn Studio One into Bitwig. So people should stop asking.

[andypryce]

No, it just sounds like you guys are using the wrong DAW. You should be using Bitwig. Studio One is meant for tracking live musicians.

Studio One is in the Pro Tools/Nuendo/Sequoia category, not the Ableton/Bitwig/Fruity Loops category.

It was a prediction, not a wish list. I quit using Studio One around V4 but Samplers and Browser are the least or not improved parts for years. I put Clip Launcher in the bag since it makes sense since they are in business with Bitwig for DAW format compatibility

[jamcat]

I don’t think clip launching is part of the DAWproject spec. I think it only covers universally supported features that all DAWs have in common, with an emphasis on plugins and automation.

[J Veronica]

I don't think gatekeeping S1 as a tracking DAW is helpful when it's had built in synths, samplers and drum machines for years.

[frankpain]

Let us change the colors of those stupid blue meters PLEASE

[THE INTRANCER]

Exactly. So there’s no reason for PreSonus to turn Studio One into Bitwig. So people should stop asking.

Some people like to stay in one eco-system that they are used to and not have to deal with the idiosyncrasies of different workflows and GUI designs as well as the additional costs of buying and supporting another DAW. When I switched from Reason to Studio One, I did not want to go back. I missed a few things like the Kong drum machine, but other than that, I didn't feel that this was a deal breaker as other alternatives were available to me in Studio One. I can there for predict that there will be some aspects of Bitwig appearing in Studio One to fill the gaps it may have in that area.

[eerie_audio]

I don’t know anything about how Propellerheads run their business. But I do know how PreSonus runs theirs. I have used Studio One since version 1.0. I have purchased all of the upgrades and add-ons that I want. Also Notion. There is no PreSonus Software that you cannot purchase a perpetual license for. Not all Studio One add-ons are free, and that has always been the case. The only difference from then and now is that PreSonus has given people a second way to get their software. In addition to the usual perpetual license route.

You are seeing things that simply are not there.

Wrong again.

First Studio One Pro, Producer and Artist were released.

Followed by Studio One Sphere.

Later it changed to Studio One+.

And now has changed again to Studio One+ Hybrid.

Let's also not forget about...

Producer has been discontinued in favor of giving you the ability to buy only the features you need to add to Studio One Artist v3 via our online store.

[apoclypse]

I don't think gatekeeping S1 as a tracking DAW is helpful when it's had built in synths, samplers and drum machines for years.

The most rudimentary of sampler, synths, and drum machine. It's clearly not their focus. They added them as a value add, maybe to showcase that it can do that stuff, but Presonus has always focused more on the mixing, tracking and production aspect of live music. They've capitulated and have added some features for electronic artists (their PR imo is pretty good), but they are still a hardware company who sells live tracking gear at the end of the day.

[apoclypse]

I don’t know anything about how Propellerheads run their business. But I do know how PreSonus runs theirs. I have used Studio One since version 1.0. I have purchased all of the upgrades and add-ons that I want. Also Notion. There is no PreSonus Software that you cannot purchase a perpetual license for. Not all Studio One add-ons are free, and that has always been the case. The only difference from then and now is that PreSonus has given people a second way to get their software. In addition to the usual perpetual license route.

You are seeing things that simply are not there.

Wrong again.

First Studio One Pro, Producer and Artist were released.

Followed by Studio One Sphere.

Later it changed to Studio One+.

And now has changed again to Studio One+ Hybrid.

Let's also not forget about...

Producer has been discontinued in favor of giving you the ability to buy only the features you need to add to Studio One Artist v3 via our online store.

I'm really not sure what you are on about

https://www.presonus.com/en-US/studio-one-pricing.html

You can clearly see Pro right here in their list of versions. They may have gotten rid of Artist etc, but Producer/Pro is still available.

[Vocalpoint Studios]

RX integration I hope.

That has already been announced for later this summer direct from iZoTope - but you will need RX11 to enjoy it.

VP

[Vocalpoint Studios]

I don’t think clip launching is part of the DAWproject spec. I think it only covers universally supported features that all DAWs have in common, with an emphasis on plugins and automation.

The introduction of this new spec with these two specific partners says "clip launcher/live looping" (to me anyway) almost without question.

One look at the mechanics of the Show page in S1 v5/6 tells me that clip launching (done of course in the most elegant Presonus fashion) feels just like ATMOS did - simply hiding behind the surface getting ready to make it's debut next year.

I have seen dozens of posts from Show users who want a bit of TLC in this area so giving this tech what it needs (and bringing it to the Arrangement world) makes total sense to me.

And of all partners possible out there to partner up with - am I the only one who keeps wondering why Presonus AND BitWig?

VP

[jonljacobi]

I don’t think clip launching is part of the DAWproject spec. I think it only covers universally supported features that all DAWs have in common, with an emphasis on plugins and automation.

The introduction of this new spec with these two specific partners says "clip launcher/live looping" (to me anyway) almost without question.

One look at the mechanics of the Show page in S1 v5/6 tells me that clip launching (done of course in the most elegant Presonus fashion) feels just like ATMOS did - simply hiding behind the surface getting ready to make it's debut next year.

I have seen dozens of posts from Show users who want a bit of TLC in this area so giving this tech what it needs (and bringing it to the Arrangement world) makes total sense to me.

And of all partners possible out there to partner up with - am I the only one who keeps wondering why Presonus AND BitWig?

VP

https://support.presonus.com/hc/en-us/a ... AW-Project

Maybe they're friends from the old days?

[Vocalpoint Studios]

Maybe they're friends from the old days?

Sure - but why all of a sudden develop a spec together?

Another good compare is Presonus and iZotope - been pals for years - but jeez - when it came to allowing RX Connect in S1 - Presonus was a bizarre and "no can do - ever" hard no.

They insisted that iZoTope get their act together and start using the ARA protocol - which they finally did and we will see the fruits of that labor later this summer when ARA connectivity between RX11 and S1 finally arrives.

If I am a DAW vendor - the last thing I would do is encourage someone to use the other guys DAW by way of a friendly file transfer format or any other means.

This pairing is way too odd to be just a "You busy? Let's build a file transfer format cause we have nothing better to do..."

Anyhoo - in the spirit of the thread title - it's a prediction+ speculation - but one that makes sense to me in terms where S1 is heading.

I would also love to see the File Browser get a complete rebuild from bottom up. So much promise but so little usability.

VP