Making music is hard, so why bother? [Instant gratification from AI music generation platforms]

[seangm]

Well, at the very least, it engendered enough interest for you to open the thread and respond. That's got to count for something.

Getting someone to click on click bait counts for nothing except you wasted someone's time.

[Bombadil]

One doesn't need theory to write music. Theory is mainly for jammers and visual communication. I've learned tunes on the piano solely by ear. Zero lessons and zero theory knowledge.
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Obviously. But you cannot technically 'write' music without theory. And you can't learn an instrument to any significant level of proficiency without absorbing some theory. An example: I learned chord inversions on the organ when I was 9-10. When I picked up the guitar, as soon as I learned the basic chord shapes, I sussed out inversions on the guitar. That would've been @ around 2-3 months of playing. I remember that impressing my brother. I didn't know the technical name 'inversion' but I understood the concept well enough.
All that with a chord chart, LPs, and that's it. I was never among the 'cool' crowd in highschool, where there were other guitarists and keyboardists. I am pretty much an auto-didact.

[vurt]

can people stop bemoaning the next generation.
our elders did that, and they were wrong then too.
yes, some people cant be bothered with music theory, many still can.
dont base everything on the two nephews you know.

[Bombadil]

GET OFF MY LAWN!

[cryophonik]

Raising GenZ’s is hard, so why bother?




FTR, we have an 18-yo, so I’m an expert in this subject

[tonedef71]

I'm just an old man yelling at clouds, lol.

Thank you for sharing your story. I hope we older folks are not just relics from a bygone era.

[tonedef71]

Well, at the very least, it engendered enough interest for you to open the thread and respond. That's got to count for something.

Getting someone to click on click bait counts for nothing except you wasted someone's time.

If someone had the time to check out the message thread, then they had time to spare for which to go down a rabbit hole. If they consider it to have been a waste, then that's on them, not me. It's not like the title was completely misleading, such as, "Making music that will attract sexual partners."

[Bombadil]

Raising GenZ’s is hard, so why bother?




FTR, we have an 18-yo, so I’m an expert in this subject

Given the state of the world, the baby-boomers didn't do a very good job as parents. The Boomers used to be referred to 'The Me Generation.' I am actually very disappointed in my generation. I can understand younger people being disappointed and pissed off at us, too.

[seangm]

Well, at the very least, it engendered enough interest for you to open the thread and respond. That's got to count for something.

Getting someone to click on click bait counts for nothing except you wasted someone's time.

If someone had the time to check out the message thread, then they had time to spare for which to go down a rabbit hole. If they consider it to have been a waste, then that's on them, not me. It's not like the title was completely misleading, such as, "Making music that will attract sexual partners."

If you're really not smart enough to understand the title was click bait then I don't know what to tell you, you seem really clueless or in denial. Either way good thing there is an ignore feature because I don't have to interact with winners like you here.

[tonedef71]

If you're really not smart enough to understand the title was click bait then I don't know what to tell you, you seem really clueless or in denial.

I understand and interact with the world differently from neurotypical folks. In this instance, I simply recycled the title from the original blog article and then left a comment mentioning that I thought that the author made some good points in it. I'm not sure why some folks seem to have taken umbrage to this thread.

Either way good thing there is an ignore feature because I don't have to interact with winners like you any more.

*PHEW* I'm glad that you consider me to be a winner and not a loser. Thank you! We need more folks in this community that are as patient and understanding as you.

[lobanov]

Ha, no, making music is still hard. It is harder than ever.

From the article:

No need for learning, practising, or even patience. A complete beginner can use AI to make a song (and the cover art too), then upload it to Spotify. All before breakfast.

They don't make music. They make garbage. They turn music into garbage. On an industrial scale.

Making music today is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

[tonedef71]

Ha, no, making music is still hard. It is harder than ever.

From the article:

No need for learning, practising, or even patience. A complete beginner can use AI to make a song (and the cover art too), then upload it to Spotify. All before breakfast.

They don't make music. They make garbage. They turn music into garbage. On an industrial scale.

Making music today is ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE.

I would like to learn more about what you have to say about this topic. Please elaborate further.

(and the cover art too)

I certainly am guilty of leveraging generative AI to create unique cover art for a track. What it produces almost always comes out better than any of the image collages I have made previously, and because I make music simply as a hobby, I cannot really justify hiring a graphic artist to create exclusive cover artwork for me.

[seangm]

f-it this post is not worth the annoyance

[tonedef71]

f-it this post is not worth the annoyance

I am sorry to hear that you find this thread to be an annoyance, but I do appreciate the contributions you have brought to it. I wish you well and look forward to reading your contributions on other threads in this vibrant KVR community.

[seangm]

Thank you for apologizing, maybe do better next time. And I am neurodivergent also and I don't post clickbait nonsense. Try maybe not using the neurodivergent sympathy card next time. That is all, continue on with your wonderful thread.