DCrown wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:21 am This might be one of the most important threads posted between 1989 and 2026.
POLL -Plugins for WinXP -11, Mac, Linux
- Beware the Quoth
- 35529 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
An idiot on Set Theory:
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate."
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- KVRian
- 685 posts since 8 Dec, 2025
Nobody has the exact same hardware, software and configuration. The smallest differences can make a plugin crash or fail to load, I've seen that plenty of times. Using plain audio and MIDI files is the way to go. Anything else is guaranteed to fail.DCrown wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 4:21 am OS can be very important when you collaborate with different people
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- KVRian
- 685 posts since 8 Dec, 2025
Personally I'm happy if a plugin is still compatible with Windows 7. It's nice to know that I can still fall back on that if my Windows 11 test system doesn't turn out to work properly.
- KVRAF
- 3721 posts since 21 Nov, 2015

You can be creative in any right place on Earth, and not only in the wealthiest cities. Bring the world feelings from everywhere, and not only feelings of capitalistic or jail environment.
― Aleksey Vaneev
https://linuxdaw.org
― Aleksey Vaneev
https://linuxdaw.org
- KVRAF
- 8563 posts since 2 Aug, 2005 from Guitar Land, USA
I use win 11, but it would be way better if everything remained no dependencies-win xp vst2 32-bit stuff.
That was the big boom, creative hosts for plugins since then, have not been so many.
That was the big boom, creative hosts for plugins since then, have not been so many.
The only site for experimental amp sim freeware & MIDI FX: http://runbeerrun.blogspot.com
https://m.youtube.com/channel/UCprNcvVH6aPTehLv8J5xokA -Youtube jams
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- KVRist
- 108 posts since 25 Oct, 2025 from Next to Enid Sinclair
Direct link - https://download.microsoft.com/download/f/2/2/f..
Thread entry from MS - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answe ... ide-update
Tracktion Waveform 13
- KVRAF
- 7425 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
They've been retiring a bunch of these useful tools lately. It looks like Microsoft is moving further away from helpful apps and moving more toward having users use the commandline....4_the masses wrote: Fri Mar 06, 2026 6:52 pmDirect link - https://download.microsoft.com/download/f/2/2/f..
Thread entry from MS - https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answe ... ide-update
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
- KVRAF
- 3721 posts since 21 Nov, 2015
How can an OS that is trying to shove down updates on you 24/7 can even be considered as a professional choice for music production? Windows wants you to be online all the time, even better logged into your account and their shop, so they can offer you the things you need. It is a consumer operating system telling you what to do, what to think and what to buy. On Mac this becomes a little more posh and elegant, yet also 'offering' you forced updates all day long. With Linux all you will get is a notification, which then includes info about which updates are security related. So now you become a user with absolute sovereignty over what your system will or can do. Now tell me, which is the very best OS for music production in these days. 
You can be creative in any right place on Earth, and not only in the wealthiest cities. Bring the world feelings from everywhere, and not only feelings of capitalistic or jail environment.
― Aleksey Vaneev
https://linuxdaw.org
― Aleksey Vaneev
https://linuxdaw.org
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- KVRian
- 938 posts since 24 Sep, 2016
Linux is a great OS but for music production it kinda sucks... i know we have Yabridge and Wine but
these don't offer 100% plugin compatibility. if Linux had support for native VST3 and CLAP support,
a huge amount of people might switch to Linux IMO.
these don't offer 100% plugin compatibility. if Linux had support for native VST3 and CLAP support,
a huge amount of people might switch to Linux IMO.
SoundCloud
"I believe every music producer inherently has something unique about the way they make music. They just have to identify what makes them different, and develop it" - Max Martin
"I believe every music producer inherently has something unique about the way they make music. They just have to identify what makes them different, and develop it" - Max Martin
- Suspended
- 17889 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
Well, you've proved that only 3% of users here are on XP, which confirms that it's not worth wasting dev resources on. Mind you, that's 3% more than I'd have expected. I can't believe anyone could possibly be able to justify to themselves using a 25 year old operating system. You'd honestly have to have rocks in your head.DCrown wrote: Sun Mar 01, 2026 9:05 pmI am going to make a poll that will show devs what os are still being used to inspire them to make all their releases in future also run for example on Windows XP.
Windows 7 is the worst version of Windows I've ever used. It's just Vista with a new frock, the underlying kernel is the same. I signed up as a Windows Beta tester so that I could get away from it, figuring that even an early beta couldn't possibly be as bad as Win7 (and it wasn't).DCrown wrote: Tue Mar 03, 2026 4:36 amI have Win10 and 7 and use 7 more and most new plugins still run on Win7 like Cherry Audio, Korg Native, GForce, Avenger, U-he (even Zebra 3), Cableguys and many more.
No, it's not and no, they don't. It costs money to support old OSes and it's money they'll never get back.DCrown wrote: Wed Mar 04, 2026 4:38 pmIt is quite interesting too see how many people use older OS, every dev who ignores it loses money.
I don't really have any issues around old plugins. We moved from 32 bit to 64 bit in 2018 but if I want to open any old songs, I still have Orion 32 bit and all our old songs still open and play just fine, all the way back to our first album, which was released in 2003. I don't bother with installers for 32 bit plugins any more, I have them all saved in Orion's "VST Plugins" folder. Some open in demo mode but most seem to just work, 20+ years on with the latest beta version of Windows 11.
NOVAkILL : Legion GO, AMD Z1x, 16GB RAM, Win11 | Audient EVO 8 | Lumi Keys | Studio Pro 8
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
Korg Odyssey, bx-oberhausen, Proxima, PolyMax, GR8, JP6K, Union, Atomika,
Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
- KVRAF
- 2382 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Stop using Windows Home. Pro gets you GPO's in which you can say "Updates only when I go to check and NOT from any other source on the internet". There, these are the 2 GPO's you want to set. Zero updates have come in 3 years soon to the audioPC or laptops automatically. Only if I go and press Search and then Update after it.
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
- KVRAF
- 2382 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Offtopic:BONES wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2026 10:59 am Windows 7 is the worst version of Windows I've ever used. It's just Vista with a new frock, the underlying kernel is the same. I signed up as a Windows Beta tester so that I could get away from it, figuring that even an early beta couldn't possibly be as bad as Win7 (and it wasn't).
Vista Beta was _much_ _MUCH_ worse. We were GOLD partner so I could get my hands really early on everything as an IT-Admin. Vista ate 800MB memory from 1GB machine at the time and booted in several minutes, then opening anything was a swapfest... 7 beta was actually usable compared to it, I ran it on my laptops for some time, all of the bettafishes.
Soft Knees - Live 12, Diva, Omnisphere, Slate Digital VSX, TDR, Kush Audio, U-He, PA, Valhalla, Fuse, Pulsar AUDIO, NI, OekSound etc. on Win11Pro R7950X & RME AiO Pro
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
https://www.youtube.com/@softknees/videos Music & Demoscene
- KVRAF
- 7425 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
You might be surprised to learn some cool things about Linux that you were misinformed about. There are hundreds of Linux-native plugins nowadays. And, Linux has had support for VST3 for years. Furthermore, Linux had support for CLAP from day one.3lu5iv3 wrote: Sat Mar 07, 2026 10:01 am Linux is a great OS but for music production it kinda sucks... i know we have Yabridge and Wine but
these don't offer 100% plugin compatibility. if Linux had support for native VST3 and CLAP support,
a huge amount of people might switch to Linux IMO.
Vendor‑Dependent Copy Protection: Customers lose. Pirates win.
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
