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Shane Sanders wrote:
Plus, having the ability to quickly substitute one instrument for another without having to copy and replace note data is so much nicer to me. Hope you give it a try.
I 'still' can't figure out how this seemingly simple thing is done Confused Embarassed Anybody? Help
Well you could just do a layer where the parent has the notes and the children are the instruments - I think. Or could you just drag and replace on the existing instrument with another one? BTW how do people find flstudio interacting with ableton live. I started with flstudio, migrated to live for it's recording and warping, and with the new release am thinking of rewiring flstudio into live. Anyone like this particular setup?
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Ian B wrote:
Shane Sanders wrote: Plus, having the ability to quickly substitute one instrument for another without having to copy and replace note data is so much nicer to me. Hope you give it a try.
I 'still' can't figure out how this seemingly simple thing is done :? :oops: Anybody? :help:
There is a little icon in the upper left-hand corner of the Fruity Wrapper (the wrapper is the window app that loads VSTi and DXi). That's the one you want to explore, and from there you can load up another VSTi in place of the one that is currently loaded. I can't recall whether it's a left-click or right-click at the moment and I'm at work and can't double check.

Also, keep in mind that some of the native Fruity instruments don't load within the same wrapper and so they don't have this icon. For this reason, I always use the VSTi version of Sytrus to keep my options open.
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Good info Shane. do this as well. Even though I don't know what automation of automation could be. :help:
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jcroot wrote: Well you could just do a layer where the parent has the notes and the children are the instruments - I think. Or could you just drag and replace on the existing instrument with another one? BTW how do people find flstudio interacting with ableton live. I started with flstudio, migrated to live for it's recording and warping, and with the new release am thinking of rewiring flstudio into live. Anyone like this particular setup?
There was a post in another thread a few days back that said, all you had to do was drag a vsti from the FL browser to replace the existing one without losing any note, etc, data. I can't figure this out :?

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Thanks Shane, got it :D (at last :oops: I've trying to work this out for a while now)
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I buying it for the video loader. Somethign I need in tracktion. It's so cheap I'll buy it even as a temporary solution. I'm also blown away at how easy it is to use buzz machines! Wish I could use ones that have unconventional pattern types or use the wavetable that would make me switch for good.
I'm still getting used to the audio sequencing it's missing some features I'm used to. Like shifting and dropping effects. But i love importing Mp3's wow! Already Dj'd a new score to the film koyaanisqatsi out of stuff from my itune's library and it was easy as pie!
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Beardedone wrote:Good info Shane. do this as well. Even though I don't know what automation of automation could be. :help:
Like in a modular synth. You can modulate a modulator that modulates the first modulator. :P In FL Studio you can Automate (modulate) the Automation Clips own settings with another automation clip which in turn can be automated by a third etc. etc. Veeery powerful stuff..

Cheers!
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Beardedone wrote:
Good info Shane. do this as well. Even though I don't know what automation of automation could be.


Like in a modular synth. You can modulate a modulator that modulates the first modulator. In FL Studio you can Automate (modulate) the Automation Clips own settings with another automation clip which in turn can be automated by a third etc. etc. Veeery powerful stuff..

Cheers!
bManic
Thanks. This makes perfect sense. No wonder I couldn't think of it. It is not something I would normally try to do. :oops:
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bmanic wrote:
Beardedone wrote:Good info Shane. do this as well. Even though I don't know what automation of automation could be. :help:
Like in a modular synth. You can modulate a modulator that modulates the first modulator. :P In FL Studio you can Automate (modulate) the Automation Clips own settings with another automation clip which in turn can be automated by a third etc. etc. Veeery powerful stuff..

Cheers!
bManic
I don't know how to do this, yet but, (scratches chin menacingly)....
Does this mean that I could load up FL 5 as a vsti in another host (like FL 4.5....)
load a wav in a sampler channel, like a saw or sine.
And basically turn it into a FM-7? :!:

modulating modulators and all?
I imagine this would be very time intensive, but once it was set up....

or am I high?
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You're high.. :lol:

You've got it a bit funked up. What I meant was that the new feature, Automation Clips, they show up in your list among the samples, instruments etc. Click on that tab and you get some funky options for the clip like SPEED, Amount, Shape etc. Now, you can AUTOMATE these parameters with ANOTHER automation clip. Thus, modulating a modulator.

Think about it as this: a LFO modulating the speed of another LFO (or for whacky weirdnes try modulating the LFO's speed with itself!). Same goes for the automation clips. Their settings are freely modulatable.

As none of the LFO's operate at audio frequencies you can not really use this for making noises.

Cheers!
bManic
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Germ wrote:What really pisses ppl off abpout FL is.....


The fact that they have spent sooooo much money in different apps before they found FL and now they have no use for any of them :hihi:

Germ 8)
Yeah, I spent like $800 for Logic 3.0 on PC, never really finished a track with it (which is honestly as much my fault as Emagic's, though it does remind me of what Brian Eno said about the discovery that 80% of all Yamaha DX7s had never had even a single patch edited: it points to an ergonomic problem).

Of course Logic has had automation (hyper editor) clips forever, which is of no use if you can't finish a song.

You know the one thing that makes FL work for me: having all of my patterns in one consitent palette so all I have to do is turn them on/off in the play list. For all the power of the big three, they still haven't implemented anything so simple (though Muzys pattern palette is still the best).
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I would love to agree, and I've been using FL for a year and a half, but my FL5 has a very important bug that no-one seems to have. (I've posted about it here sdo I won't repeat myself)

so I can only say, it must be exceptional, but I can't enjoy it and I'm still condemned to use FL 4.5
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origami wrote:I would love to agree, and I've been using FL for a year and a half, but my FL5 has a very important bug that no-one seems to have. (I've posted about it here sdo I won't repeat myself)

so I can only say, it must be exceptional, but I can't enjoy it and I'm still condemned to use FL 4.5
What bug do you have? I must have missed your post about it. Just curious.
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origami wrote:I would love to agree, and I've been using FL for a year and a half, but my FL5 has a very important bug that no-one seems to have. (I've posted about it here sdo I won't repeat myself)

so I can only say, it must be exceptional, but I can't enjoy it and I'm still condemned to use FL 4.5
Could you at least link to your post about the bug? I've yet to find any real bugs. I have found a couple of annoying "this used to work like this in 4.5 but doesn't work in 5.0 any more", like the fact that you now have to insert a pattern block in the pattern editor before you can do a recording, otherwise the recorded data never appears! In 4.5 you could simply select a new clean row and hit record, then fruity would automatically insert a pattern block and store the recording. However this is just very minor niggle.

Cheers!
bManic
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bmanic wrote:
origami wrote:I would love to agree, and I've been using FL for a year and a half, but my FL5 has a very important bug that no-one seems to have. (I've posted about it here sdo I won't repeat myself)

so I can only say, it must be exceptional, but I can't enjoy it and I'm still condemned to use FL 4.5
Could you at least link to your post about the bug? I've yet to find any real bugs.

Cheers!
bManic
This bug,

http://forum.e-officedirect.com/forum.e ... GEFRAME=OK

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Spe3d

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