loops - what do you do with/to them

[soulata]

I think I'll either wait or purchase Recycle + Phatmatik (does it support rex2?). I'm really not into Intakt.

Ok, I did a bit of a search. It does support rex2 and I think Phatmatik will be all I need (I'll wait a bit anyway)

This is also nice:


Glaresoft and Windows
December 8, 2004 04:14 PM

There’s been quite a bit of confusion surrounding whether or not we plan on supporting Windows XP in the future. This stems from an ill-considered forum post from Bitshift Audio’s founder nearly two years ago to the effect that we would no longer develop for or support the Windows platform.

This is not the case. iDrum will be available for Windows shortly and in the future, all Glaresoft products will ship simultaneously for both platforms. To be clear: Everyone at Glaresoft is committed to developing and supporting software for Windows XP and Mac OS X.

We apologize to our customers and friends making music on Windows for the confusion and we look forward to hearing from all of you.

[Crackbaby]

Its not pirated software that ruins companies .. its forums


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Have a look at microdicer too

[Sascha Franck]

Sascha, you must be the most helpfull individual i have ever met

Just don't be too sure about that...
On a serious note: As explaining such things is part of my job it allways helps to have things crosschecked.
Anyways, glad it was informative.

I've dr008, I think I'll either wait or purchase Recycle + Phatmatik (does it support rex2?). I'm really not into Intakt.

Well, you know, you only need one of the two. I would most likely go for Phatmatik (as it exports slices as well). On the upside, you can even drag those slices straight from the Phatmatik UI to the DR-008 UI. Defenitely a winning combo!
I think the latest Phatmatik update does indeed load rex2 files (doesn't export them though, but that should be less important).

As far as using Battery (instead of the DR-008) goes, I was just too lazy to tweak each cell separately and I just happen to own both.
The same results would've been entirely possible using DR-008 as well, and on a one bar loop (which this one was) it´d perhaps take another 1-2 minutes to lower the decay of the offensively reverbed slices.

Final question: I see using loops as saving time but it all seems a bit, erm, much work. Is it?

It depends. If you slice them your own, yes, there's some initial work to do.
But once you have, say, 50-100 "general purpose" loops ready, it's really getting a fast procedure.
Doing all the stuff for the posted MP3 might've taken half an hour at best, probably less. It seems that writing the post about it actually took longer.

You could of course also get something like Stylus RMX, allready containing tons of sliced (and great sounding) loops, offering several ways of mangling them too, with a nice way to preview them as well.
But then, Stylus is of no help when mangling your own stuff - so in case the sample content shouldn't satisfy you, you'd need some more tools as well.

See you (I have to practice sax now).

Have fun!

[Consumer Whore]

Howabout?:
Record four short drumloops of the same size (using layered SFZ+free soundfonts+Drumatic3+whatever) in energyXT. The freeze function is great for this.

The run these thru Ioplong's Slifty....



Cant hurt to try...

[soulata]

You could of course also get something like Stylus RMX, allready containing tons of sliced (and great sounding) loops, offering several ways of mangling them too, with a nice way to preview them as well. But then, Stylus is of no help when mangling your own stuff - so in case the sample content shouldn't satisfy you, you'd need some more tools as well.

RMX + Recycle would probably make a great combo but there's always an $$$ issue.

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[wayover]

You could of course also get something like Stylus RMX, allready containing tons of sliced (and great sounding) loops, offering several ways of mangling them too, with a nice way to preview them as well.
But then, Stylus is of no help when mangling your own stuff - so in case the sample content shouldn't satisfy you, you'd need some more tools as well.

Stylus RMX is great for mangling your own stuff. There's nothing better for importing your own loop and turning it into something cool and unique.

[steffensen]

http://www.kvraudio.com/forum/viewtopic ... sc&start=0

this rules them all!

[SuitcaseOfLizards]

I hate to admit I'm late to the party.. I use purchased drum loop CDs because I can't drum, or program drums, to save my life. But last week, after reading this book on dance music production I bought, I decided to try loading some canned drum loops into Orion Platinums sampler and experimenting with the beat slicer.. w04h!

It's pretty amazing what can be done with a decent beat-slicer and a sick imagination... Chuck in some nice delay and filter effects and you're in business!

[Sascha Franck]

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Stylus RMX is great for mangling your own stuff. There's nothing better for importing your own loop and turning it into something cool and unique.

Sorry, but you can't slice your own stuff with Stylus.

[wayover]

You could of course also get something like Stylus RMX, allready containing tons of sliced (and great sounding) loops, offering several ways of mangling them too, with a nice way to preview them as well.
But then, Stylus is of no help when mangling your own stuff - so in case the sample content shouldn't satisfy you, you'd need some more tools as well.

. Here's another way to put it.

Stylus RMX is great for mangling your own stuff. If your loops are already in REX format, you can import them directly. If not, slice them with Recycle then import them. Either way, once they're in RMX, you've got infinite mangling possibilities.

[MikeLeuz]

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Stylus RMX is great for mangling your own stuff. There's nothing better for importing your own loop and turning it into something cool and unique.

Sorry, but you can't slice your own stuff with Stylus.

As Soulata was referring to, you can use Recycle to export your loops as REX2, which Stylus RMX can import and mangle.

[Sascha Franck]

As Soulata was referring to, you can use Recycle to export your loops as REX2, which Stylus RMX can import and mangle.

I know. But that means you gotta purchase ReCycle as well.

[Crackbaby]

Puh!

Thanks Sascha. I just thought that i have written untrue things in another thread.

So no slicing in RMX.. pewwwww

Can one say that this is true?:

RMX - A RMX-player with a great library and some nice features. Needs rexfiles or recycle+loops to ad soundss.

Microdicer (or any other slicer) - A slicer AND a player, but with no library of already sliced loops. Can still import rex-files though and get a similar experience as RMX.

True?

[Sascha Franck]

True?

Defenitely.
The only thing is, the "similar experience as RMX" would be questionable.
It defenitely depends on your FX arsenal and additional drum tools (such as a drum sampler).
Also, I think as a package Stylus is very well thought out. FX seem to be really nice - so are the various ways of easy mangling.
Doesn't allow for a few things though. Should you ever wish to replace individual hits with your own it seems you're lost - at least when it comes to using Stylus entirely on its own. So in that case you'd need an additional sampler again.

I think of Stylus as a VERY well thought out way to present a loop library - way better than, say, the libraries that are now shipping with Intakt as their VSTi interface.
Regarding that point it might be the best there is right now.
But it still is in no way a drum sampler or a slicer. So, no matter how flexible the internal functions are - if you'd ever feel the need to sample or slice something on your own (which is something I really love doing), Stylus alone won't cut it.

[glurgle]

I don't know about the other ones, but MicroDicer is capable of loading rex, rx2 and plain .wav loops to work with.

It doesn't have any built-in FX or filters, but with the ability to assign slices to more than one key and each of those keys assigned to one of 4 stereo outputs, you really don't lose anything as far as flexibility goes.