Does anyone else find Moby's music to be highly over-rated

[hello1234]

Although I certainly have no right to critisize (spelling?) him, I am kinda wondering where he came from.....ya know.......roots and all. He has a big following/name but I persoanlly don't get it.

More power to him............shit.......wish I coudl get recognized and be a biggie.............

[deggy]

Although I certainly have no right to critisize (spelling?) him, I am kinda wondering where he came from.....ya know.......roots and all. He has a big following/name but I persoanlly don't get it.

More power to him............shit.......wish I coudl get recognized and be a biggie.............

I think he was part of the rave scene in New York in the early 90s

[Karbon L. Forms]

I like animal rights. Its less shite than you!

[Hypertone]

Moby is not overrated. All the other geeks who make mediocre electronic music are highly underrated. Why can't more nerdy bedroom musicians get into the mainstream?

[Krakatau]

By my side, i feel that most of the best-selling musics are highly overrated,...the last hit made by Moby may sound fantastic by many aspects, but as a stric composer's point of view...don't get me wrong, i like it much, but forget it quickly too...

[Failed Muso]

Give me a shit load of Moby over any of the manufactured crap we are served up on a daily basis. At least the guy can play and write, whether you like it or not. I'd rather be stranded on a desert island with his material than some talentless teen wanker's repetoire.

That said, IMHO, "Play" has been Moby's finest moment so far. "18" and "Hotel" have seen him go back to the guitar and many electronica fans resent that. He still writes great tunes tho', and he does have an talent for a catchy hook.

[Rabban]

f**k you all!!!

I must be one of his few fans. I love his electronica, ambient music.

Around this crowd, I feel almost ashamed but, yes, I love his music and, no, I do not think he is overated, and, yes, I am currently drunk at this time (woohoo!!! )

Cheers,

Rabban

[CypherOne]

to be fair to the guy, he's just cashing in on a successful formula. I know I'd probably do the same.

I remember seeing him live on Jools Holland a few years ago and was really impressed with his performance, from the perspective of his talent and ability to play a range of instruments.

The music doesn't do anything for me at all though.

[tranel]

generic shuffly beats loop + some super-syrupy chords + some random tinkly piano riffs + a gospel vocal sample = another moby hit!

Maybe other people can say something similar about your own music? Maybe your music is as repetitive/formulaic to them as Moby's is to you? The man has found a concept that obviously works, people buy it, and he has managed to build up a more or less loyal fan base. That's one helluva lot more than most of us on this forum has managed.

Oh, and in this discussion there is a lot of "ordinary tone-deaf mortals like him, but we enlightened MUSICIANS understand better", which IMHO calls for a slight reality check. In my experience, there is a vast crowd out there who call themselves "musicians" and "producers" because they've dabbled with Reason for a year, know how to drop Wav-loops into a sequencer, and play a few one-finger notes on a 25-key midi keyboard.

Worst quote from someone here on the KVR forum, who DID call him/herself a musician some time ago: "I can't play the piano, but with the arpeggiator it sounds like I can!" Yeah right.

My apologies to those of you who actually make a living from music, know advanced chord theory, have developed real, intuitive skills in playing (not programming) your instruments, and can produce professional-sounding mixes to the sometimes ridiculous deadlines set by the industry. I take my hat off to you, you I'd be prepared/honored to call musicians.

[Krakatau]

please cool down kids !

I was personnaly a big fan of progressive music when i was a teenager during seventies, and regret that it rarely exist, much as a composer point of view, something similar in quality actually ( both as composing work and production )

_____

I would be really interested to see some similar concept albums of these times like "tales from topographic oceans" from Yes, "Tarkus" from ELP or "Lark tongues in aspic" from King Crimson being helped by sound designers and sounds engineers that have been working for Michael Jackson for his album "Dangerous"...by example

[Big Karma]

I like moby!



Currently have 'Hotel' in my CD player in the car and thoroughly enjoy it!

[Krakatau]

I like it too...but there they're other stuff i would prefer...

...don't worry too much though !

[deggy]

Oh, and in this discussion there is a lot of "ordinary tone-deaf mortals like him, but we enlightened MUSICIANS understand better", which IMHO calls for a slight reality check.

I can't say that I haven't made any comments at all like that ever at kvr but what i can say is that is that when I read stuff like that, I find it a little irritating (and my original post is also kinda insipid but I was just having a little fun anyways). I also tend to find that some of the best players that I encounter at gigs or i met in the past in my classes were some of the most modest people I have ever met (not all of them of course but some of them).

Anyways, I don't know if anyone noticed this major flaw with my original post. Why do I own almost every single Moby album? The answer - I just wrote that post because I was bummed about not being able to get this one CD that was now out of print but I noticed that there tons of Moby Hotel CDs on the display in this store I was in. And then later that day, I went through my tape collection to throw out some stuff and I stumbled across a bunch of Moby. So, in reality, #1: I don't hate Moby and #2: I am full of shit and you can quote that all you want. sorry. Have fun. D

[deggy]

I also heard from a friend that the second Hotel CD is pretty decent.

[Klemperer]

please cool down kids !

I was personnaly a big fan of progressive music when i was a teenager during seventies, and regret that it rarely exist, much as a composer point of view, something similar in quality actually ( both as composing work and production )

_____

I would be really interested to see some similar concept albums of these times like "tales from topographic oceans" from Yes, "Tarkus" from ELP or "Lark tongues in aspic" from King Crimson being helped by sound designers and sounds engineers that have been working for Michael Jackson for his album "Dangerous"...by example

I seem to have similar preferences, even if those groups could have been 10-15 years younger so I would have been able to see them live . I think many people of now will admire Moby in the future that way. He said "hey everyone seems to like Radiohead and his slightly arrogant singer, and everyone seems to bash me now". (He said it more polite, you know .
I can really understand why someone loves the music of this guy who just works in his flat and the results can be heard by everyone who wants. I do not like anything he said, but at least he's not such an over-arrogant a******* and thinks "Me rulez you shite".

So is there a reason why people don't simply LOVE or not love music, but go like believers and cry "Björk is God and if you don't agree I'll shoot you immediately?"??? And is there a reason why Madonna was "God" a while and since a few years Björk is "God" but Madonna was bashed? If you said in 2004 "ah I like this from Björk, but not that" people looked at you as if you were crazy.... It meant "you're out of our religion!!"
That's idiotic.
The pain starts, where musicians get over-arrogant like Bono, Radiohead-singers or others. As far as music goes, we could - KVR-philosophers we all are - simply agree "yes you think Tori Amos is only a copy of Kate Bush, well I don't see it that way, I like "not the red baron" and so on.
If people think they should be dictators only because they sell well or not, problems start.
Moby doesn't seem to think so. His latest record starts with a fine slow stringy-song. I like it, friends of mine didn't. I find his earlier recordings edit: not to my taste, others, and many, did like him pretty much. In Germany he influenced many people, I heard, in a good way.
Life could be easier for all of us, I think...