Rhythm experts: WTF is this?
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- KVRist
- 61 posts since 6 Mar, 2004 from Oslo, Norway
A bit late to the party, but here goes..
I have to agree with farlukar on this one, even though chris_b's version is working fine as well..
I see it as a 8/4 pattern with subdivisions of 3-2-3 (or 5-3). I've added a meteronome with an accent on the subdivisions:
Dogg.mp3
But, it's all a matter of feeling and personal preference as you say Sascha.. 3-2-3 is just the one I find the most intuitive to follow.
Jorgen.
I have to agree with farlukar on this one, even though chris_b's version is working fine as well..
I see it as a 8/4 pattern with subdivisions of 3-2-3 (or 5-3). I've added a meteronome with an accent on the subdivisions:
Dogg.mp3
But, it's all a matter of feeling and personal preference as you say Sascha.. 3-2-3 is just the one I find the most intuitive to follow.
Jorgen.
- KVRAF
- 2818 posts since 30 Aug, 2001 from where dinosaurs are still alive
- KVRAF
- 4749 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K
sorry, im a bit lost on this thread ?
what is it about again
it just sounds like a slow groove ?
enlighten me please
ok the original loop maybe a nats cock out but.
www.topazproductions.co.uk/audio/pants_beat.mp3
repeat after me Sascha (mantra)
boom - che - che. bha - / boom
boom - che - che. bha - / boom
what is it about again
it just sounds like a slow groove ?
enlighten me please
ok the original loop maybe a nats cock out but.
www.topazproductions.co.uk/audio/pants_beat.mp3
repeat after me Sascha (mantra)
boom - che - che. bha - / boom
boom - che - che. bha - / boom
- KVRAF
- 4687 posts since 6 Jan, 2003
ok cool, thanks.farlukar wrote:I'm not in the know either but I think the semantically correct way to describe it would be a loop of three 16/16 bars and one 17/16. Or something.
-ugo
- KVRAF
- 4749 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K
bah doom dabada ba doom...ba

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atomic_(no)afro atomic_(no)afro https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=5043
- KVRian
- 622 posts since 18 Dec, 2002
Seriously, this beat is really nothing new guys. I've been hearing the same sorts of sounds coming out of the nu-soul and broken beat scenes for years now. If you're interested in hearing the true innovators in urban music, check out:
Spacek's "Vintage Hi-Tech"
Platinum Pied Piper's "Triple P"
Quantic's "Mishaps Happening"
As One's "Out Of The Darkness"
I wonder who Snoop got to produce that record, I'm guessing that it's one of the usual suspects in the nu-soul scene.
ATA
Spacek's "Vintage Hi-Tech"
Platinum Pied Piper's "Triple P"
Quantic's "Mishaps Happening"
As One's "Out Of The Darkness"
I wonder who Snoop got to produce that record, I'm guessing that it's one of the usual suspects in the nu-soul scene.
ATA
- KVRAF
- 4749 posts since 15 Jul, 2001 from Holmfirth, West Yorkshire, U.K
right, it's just a basic funk groove played slow,
tower of power offbeat funk on a machine.
tower of power offbeat funk on a machine.
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- KVRAF
- 4822 posts since 14 Mar, 2002 from Somewhere else, on principle
THE TROGGS TAPES (Excerpt)

Reg: [Music starts up] Yeah!.....No!
Reg: You had it there at the beginning Ron. It was sounding good. Well just…Ron…Ronny? Just listen for a sec…
Ronnie: …all f**king night. I just cannot feel it any other way that what I've been f**king doing it.
Reg: You have played it tonight.
Ronnie: Well you better f**king forget it, 'cos I ain't going to be able to do it, I'll tell you that now. I cannot f**king do it…I don't know, because if that's the case, then we should f**king find out before we ever get to the f**king studio. We want to f**king do that, that and that, because we've been doing it every …
Reg: It's easy. You've done it tonight. …every f**king week, it's been going 'da da da da da… you know.
Ronnie: You don't expect f**king miracles just like that Reg, it's f**king in there, embedded in there. I can't f**king hear it any other way but that.
Reg: But you have done it. You did it.
Chris: It is exactly the same rhythm as you were playing before. It's da da da da da ja, da da da da da. On different drums, that's all.
Reg: You're doing da da ba boom boom ba.
Chris: Play da da da da da ja.
Reg: No, no more beats.
Chris: Just play da da da da da ja. Or whatever drums you were playing Ron, originally. How you've got them embedded in there.
Ronnie: Yeah, alright. Alright.
Tony: And then just start moving it about with different drums…. What you were doing is exactly the same as what you were doing originally, only different drums.
Ronnie: Yeah I know.
Reg: Yeah…and you did it. And you did it. You went da da da da….
Ronnie: You can say that all f**king night but you won't listen.
Chris: We can keep on trying and then we can get it together.
Ronnie: Yeah, well just shut your f**king mouths for five minutes. It'll give me a f**king chance to do it. Don't keep f**king …?..ing that f**king microphone. Da da da. Da da da.
Ronnie: f**k me Reg.
Ronnie: Just f**k off.
Reg: Yeah, well you f**king think, then…we're not just..
Ronnie: Just keep going…we're working through it.
Reg: Don't just keep saying, "Ah, yeah, well that ain't right". I know that ain't f**king right. I can f**king hear it ain't right, you c**t.
Ronnie: Well, f**k me.
Reg: We can hear it's f**king not right too.
Ron: I f**king can and I'm the c**t that's playing it so when I'm f**king hearing it in my f**king head, yeah, that's what I gotta f**king do. Then I'll do it! You big pranny.
Tony: Listen, we keep on playing it and just f**king play what you think is right.
Chris: f**king up….Ok…can you sing along with it? 'Cos then we'll know where we are…
[Music starts]
Reg: f**king drummer, I shit him. Da da da da da…Da da da da da …..(What about a f**king count then?)… 1, 2, a 1, 2, 3, 4…You're doing it f**king wrong….laughs….dubba dubba dubba cha, dubba dubba dubba cha, dubba dubba dubba cha, dubba dubba….you did it, you did it in the beginning. Bloody hell, I can't play with that! …..Hey?
Ronnie: Nor can I…Nor can f**king I…
Reg: Well you're f**king doing it.
Background voice: I can't f**king play to it either…
Reg: Why don't you just do what you f**king started out doing? Dubba dubba dubba cha. Yeah, on your top one…dubba dubba dubba cha….[drumming] dubba dubba dubba cha….No!
Reg: da da da da da cha….. da da da da da cha……… da da da da da cha [drumming]
Ronnie: Why ain't you f**king, you're talking out the back of your f**king arses, because all you want then is the same f**king thing that I was playing f**king …. You bastards….
Reg: On different f**king drums…on different drums.
Ronnie: Well then, all you want then is the f**king that one and the f**king bass drum. They're the same thing…
Reg: You're the f**king drummer…You're the drummer.
Ronnie: Yes, you f**king do! 'Cos that's all you're f**king doing. You ain't playing any f**king thing else.
Background Voice: Play that one.
Reg: Alright, I'm playing that. [Drumming]. Da da da da da dum… da da da da da dum
Ronnie: ….You're changing the f**king thing completely….You can't f**king do it…Won't listen…[Drumming over muffled voices].
Chris: Exactly the same thing on different drums.
Reg: You don't f**king listen, that's your trouble.
Ronnie: I didn't say we want different things..on f**king different drums…We want da da da da da
Reg: You do…We're saying what you…And you did it…And you f**king did it…Dubba dubba da cha. Dubba dubba da cha.
Chris: And then change it around and do it the other f**king way around.
Ronnie: Oh f**k it….[mumbles]..f**k….
Ronnie: It's the f**king…always f**king get this…you don't….
Reg: You should have a little more time than to be able to just whip it over and change it entirely.
Ronnie: Not while I keep getting in ….
Reg: In fact, we're not asking you to change it much. Only asking you to do half of it on one drum, half of it on the other, and the bang wherever you want to bang.
Reg: Ronny, can you hear me?
Ronnie: Yeah.
Reg: What about, trying it, not only, not on that top, just on that top skin floor, and then your floor tom-tom. But try it on, split your hands, so's that one beat is doing it on the top, er drum, one's doing it on the floor tom-tom, then your bass. [Drumming]….Sounds better…hey?..top…top…

Reg: [Music starts up] Yeah!.....No!
Reg: You had it there at the beginning Ron. It was sounding good. Well just…Ron…Ronny? Just listen for a sec…
Ronnie: …all f**king night. I just cannot feel it any other way that what I've been f**king doing it.
Reg: You have played it tonight.
Ronnie: Well you better f**king forget it, 'cos I ain't going to be able to do it, I'll tell you that now. I cannot f**king do it…I don't know, because if that's the case, then we should f**king find out before we ever get to the f**king studio. We want to f**king do that, that and that, because we've been doing it every …
Reg: It's easy. You've done it tonight. …every f**king week, it's been going 'da da da da da… you know.
Ronnie: You don't expect f**king miracles just like that Reg, it's f**king in there, embedded in there. I can't f**king hear it any other way but that.
Reg: But you have done it. You did it.
Chris: It is exactly the same rhythm as you were playing before. It's da da da da da ja, da da da da da. On different drums, that's all.
Reg: You're doing da da ba boom boom ba.
Chris: Play da da da da da ja.
Reg: No, no more beats.
Chris: Just play da da da da da ja. Or whatever drums you were playing Ron, originally. How you've got them embedded in there.
Ronnie: Yeah, alright. Alright.
Tony: And then just start moving it about with different drums…. What you were doing is exactly the same as what you were doing originally, only different drums.
Ronnie: Yeah I know.
Reg: Yeah…and you did it. And you did it. You went da da da da….
Ronnie: You can say that all f**king night but you won't listen.
Chris: We can keep on trying and then we can get it together.
Ronnie: Yeah, well just shut your f**king mouths for five minutes. It'll give me a f**king chance to do it. Don't keep f**king …?..ing that f**king microphone. Da da da. Da da da.
Ronnie: f**k me Reg.
Ronnie: Just f**k off.
Reg: Yeah, well you f**king think, then…we're not just..
Ronnie: Just keep going…we're working through it.
Reg: Don't just keep saying, "Ah, yeah, well that ain't right". I know that ain't f**king right. I can f**king hear it ain't right, you c**t.
Ronnie: Well, f**k me.
Reg: We can hear it's f**king not right too.
Ron: I f**king can and I'm the c**t that's playing it so when I'm f**king hearing it in my f**king head, yeah, that's what I gotta f**king do. Then I'll do it! You big pranny.
Tony: Listen, we keep on playing it and just f**king play what you think is right.
Chris: f**king up….Ok…can you sing along with it? 'Cos then we'll know where we are…
[Music starts]
Reg: f**king drummer, I shit him. Da da da da da…Da da da da da …..(What about a f**king count then?)… 1, 2, a 1, 2, 3, 4…You're doing it f**king wrong….laughs….dubba dubba dubba cha, dubba dubba dubba cha, dubba dubba dubba cha, dubba dubba….you did it, you did it in the beginning. Bloody hell, I can't play with that! …..Hey?
Ronnie: Nor can I…Nor can f**king I…
Reg: Well you're f**king doing it.
Background voice: I can't f**king play to it either…
Reg: Why don't you just do what you f**king started out doing? Dubba dubba dubba cha. Yeah, on your top one…dubba dubba dubba cha….[drumming] dubba dubba dubba cha….No!
Reg: da da da da da cha….. da da da da da cha……… da da da da da cha [drumming]
Ronnie: Why ain't you f**king, you're talking out the back of your f**king arses, because all you want then is the same f**king thing that I was playing f**king …. You bastards….
Reg: On different f**king drums…on different drums.
Ronnie: Well then, all you want then is the f**king that one and the f**king bass drum. They're the same thing…
Reg: You're the f**king drummer…You're the drummer.
Ronnie: Yes, you f**king do! 'Cos that's all you're f**king doing. You ain't playing any f**king thing else.
Background Voice: Play that one.
Reg: Alright, I'm playing that. [Drumming]. Da da da da da dum… da da da da da dum
Ronnie: ….You're changing the f**king thing completely….You can't f**king do it…Won't listen…[Drumming over muffled voices].
Chris: Exactly the same thing on different drums.
Reg: You don't f**king listen, that's your trouble.
Ronnie: I didn't say we want different things..on f**king different drums…We want da da da da da
Reg: You do…We're saying what you…And you did it…And you f**king did it…Dubba dubba da cha. Dubba dubba da cha.
Chris: And then change it around and do it the other f**king way around.
Ronnie: Oh f**k it….[mumbles]..f**k….
Ronnie: It's the f**king…always f**king get this…you don't….
Reg: You should have a little more time than to be able to just whip it over and change it entirely.
Ronnie: Not while I keep getting in ….
Reg: In fact, we're not asking you to change it much. Only asking you to do half of it on one drum, half of it on the other, and the bang wherever you want to bang.
Reg: Ronny, can you hear me?
Ronnie: Yeah.
Reg: What about, trying it, not only, not on that top, just on that top skin floor, and then your floor tom-tom. But try it on, split your hands, so's that one beat is doing it on the top, er drum, one's doing it on the floor tom-tom, then your bass. [Drumming]….Sounds better…hey?..top…top…