FL Studio MIDI question

[xander]

No, I certainly apologise -- I didn't mean it as a thinly veiled comment at all - I meant I thought the smartarse could be a thief.

Read his OP and it reads like any one of the last dozen pirates that have been poking around in KVR for info on their 'paid for' shite.

It's a fcuking legitimate question to ask why he didn't go to looptalk in the first place if he was a registered owner -- your basic moron-101 class knows that. The fact that he didn't and didn't want to hear about it, answered vaguely and acted like a smartarse just added the fuel, and I was going after him with a full fcuking tank -- period.

As the wally said, it's a forum, so better get used to devs like me jumping in and asking relevant questions as to why someone doesn't avail themselves of the companies own forums like looptalk, where, as I said, he could have found the answer pronto.

He's right - he didn't HAVE to go to looptalk, and I am right in that I didn't have to believe what sounded like a load of BS either.

Had he worded his OP a little better, I wouldn't have been alarmed. I was and that's that & I aint gonna change, let alone apologise for being concerned about piracy -- so fcuking get over it.

Am I glad he proved me wrong? Yeah -- and he damn sure should be too.

Cheers,
Alex

[audiobot202]

Read his OP and it reads like any one of the last dozen pirates that have been poking around in KVR for info on their 'paid for' shite.

I understand where you're coming from there Xander, but being somewhat smartarsed yourself probably isn't the best way to approach anyone, especially since you really don't know my circumstances.

It's a fcuking legitimate question to ask why he didn't go to looptalk in the first place if he was a registered owner -- your basic moron-101 class knows that. The fact that he didn't and didn't want to hear about it, answered vaguely and acted like a smartarse just added the fuel, and I was going after him with a full fcuking tank -- period.

Moron? You are just hostile mate. I can almost rest my case here.
I visit KVR. I don't care for Looptalk. There are Fruity users here. I don't care to go to the Fruity site. That's no excuse for being rude and hostile to me. Where I surf is a personal choice.

As the wally said, it's a forum, so better get used to devs like me jumping in and asking relevant questions as to why someone doesn't avail themselves of the companies own forums like looptalk, where, as I said, he could have found the answer pronto.

Wally? Yep, pretty sure I can rest my case about you being hostile. I'll avail myself of any forum I wish. Obviously some other posters got something out of it, so I'd say my question was actually quite helpful.

You have your beliefs and I have mine. But next time you want to accuse me of something, make sure you have some facts straight, or at least give it some thought before letting loose on the keyboard.

[Rellik]

I was reading this thread earlier but didn't have a chance to comment on it, and now that I do, I just need to say that I was APPALLED at "...xander" 's behavior

I can understand being suspicious when it comes to this kind of post, where you can't tell for sure whether the original poster is legit or not, and I can understand asking the poster about it to make sure - but an outright attack, with ZERO substantial evidence, in fact, barely even enough vague evidence to be suspicious?

He was obviously pissed off at that, as I would be. A savage attack like that, unprovoked, is little more than out-and-out trolling. It's better that some pirates get away without being lambasted, rather than have that kind of uncivilized witch-hunt. Maybe this guy IS a pirate, and got a friend of his to post the topic from Loop-Talk - who knows? Not me, and not you. It sounds like you think you're justified in this kind of behavior - as if you're some kind of righteous vigilante, when you're just being a downright troll. And you say you're a developer... what kind of a developer in his right mind lunges like an attack dog for no reason, in an age where consumers are already increasingly jaded by developers' attitudes, especially when it comes to copy protection/piracy issues.

This is the first time I've seen you act this way, so I'm not passing judgement or anything, but if you act this way all the time and I just haven't been noticing it, then... . Anyway, I think the point here is that you owe audiobot an apology - I'll be quite happy if I see him get one, but I'm not going to mutter some stupid threat like "and you'll sorry if you don't apologize" for what I would have thought would be obvious reasons.

[99]

Audiobot2002, English is not my first language, but to be fair I also thought you are pirate, especially in the hostle way you talk to normal and react to xander.

Yes, search, how obvious.

I ask a question and you're rude. Why bother to even post if you're going to act like a jerk?
I happen to prefer earlier versions for my own very good reasons.

Did I tread on your Fruity fan toes or something? Bruise your Fruity like sensibilities with a question about a function that is obvious to you, but is handled thick headedly in FL?

Then you apologized, but you can lose your temper easy. If you can calm down, you can understand better I think.

Of course, you are the first one to call someone a name. You call normal a jerk and then xander a dimwit, then you get angry because he call you a name back, so now your last post you sound like a troll. Your words contain an arrogance that is not helpful.

But I can also understand your position after a while, so I understand both. Both are wrong and both are right it seems. Now you should forget it.

But accordingly I have tested it and there is no difference I can find between 3.4 and 5.0 versions in performance, only in RAM consumption.

What kind of system do you use? Frankly if your system is slower than 1 Gigahertz or have less than 512 megabytes of RAM you might see some difference? It too can depend on what VST you can use in it.

Are you using FL as a VSTI in another host? This could be a difference in performance of versions possibly. I did not try it.

The midi issue is something I can always have the difficulties with in FL, at least there is a solution, but it should be more easy to export the midi, I agree. But I think this may be updated in version 6.0

[Steven West]

A guy goes into a new bar. Seemed like a nice place; good looking folks, nice ambience. He sits down the far end of the bar and orders a pint and enjoys the surroundings. All of a sudden a man stands up at a table of people and yells '37!', and everyone in the establishment starts laughing loudly. Figuring he must've missed something, the newcomer just smiles politely with everyone. About 5 minutes later, this woman at the bar turns to everyone and yells '57!' and everyone goes into hysterics. The new gent confused waves the bartender over. 'What the heck is going on here?' he asks the barkeep. The bartender replies 'Well, everyone here are regulars. Some have been coming here for over 20 years. Well, the usual run of jokes have gone around here so often, the patrons have got to numbering them all. Saves time telling a small group a long tale, and everyone remembers it their own little way to make them laugh anyways.' The new gent's amazed 'Really? That's incredible!' The barkeep responds 'It's nothing really, you should give it a go. It'll make you popular and fit right in then. Just pick a number out of 100 and give her a go.' The new gent shyly obliges, and stands up at the bar. Everyone glances over and awaits. The gent belts out '76!' with a smile... No one even cracks a grin, and goes back to their drinks and conversations. The new patron, highly embarrased sits back down and confides to the barkeep 'What the heck happened? I picked a number and I'm sure everyone heard me...?' The barkeep pats him on the shoulder with a comferting tone and says 'There, there. Some people can tell a joke... Some people can't.'

For some reason, it felt like the right place for this joke as well. Hope somebody's laughing atleast?

[audiobot202]

Actually, I'm flabbergasted at how degenrative this has become. I ask a question, mention what version I am using just to put the question into context and all of a sudden I am attacked by people who must think I am some sort of illegitimate user. Heaven forbid that anyone might stoop to using a *gasp* 'older' version ! It must mean that they found a pirated copy on the net right? What registered user in their right mind would do such a terrible thing? Obviously, there's some sarcasm there...
Look, I thank those people who stuck to the original question rather than focussing on what version I am using and why. I think I'cve already explained why I am using it. It's a personal choice which, honestly, is nothing amazingly odd. If FL version 6 adds something I like then I'll probably revert back to it.

Rellik: Thanks for the support I see where you're coming from about the piracy issue and I know how KVR operates in this regard. I could have had a friend go to Looptalk, but I posted the Looptalk forum quote earlier to quietly prove that I am a registered user. It was smarmy of Xander to do that so I just proved him wrong. Fact is, I went there myself, so I have full access to everything FL. I just don't use FL very much these days but now have need of some functionality...reason for my original question.

99: I think you'll find that my second post is a little overreactive, but most of them have been reasonably polite. I used the word 'jerk' but I patched that up with the person I name called. Tnen Xander jumped all over me for no apparent reason, so I reacted again. I think that's pretty normal behaviour. Normally I'd not bother and leave this all well alone and let others think what they want. In the end its unimportant, but I'm bored and felt like a few posts
I haved a perfectly fast machine....definitely well above spec for FL. I just find that 5x versions a bit cluttered is all. Like I said, there's nothing to it. I didn't know that people were monitoring version usage ! Heck, I didn't know it was that important ! Next time I won't say anything about it...
It's a program I use occasionally, not everyday, so I have no need of all of those features. Get it?

Steven West: Nice one

[crimsontider]

...xander and 99 the same person? Someone please check the IP's

[sparlecki]

I really wish people on this forum would get off the high horse and just help people out.

Its frustrating.

[sparlecki]

Oh and I would have offered help if I could...still learning the fruity ropes (everything vst related, actually) myself, and have been wondering about MIDI. That said, if anyone wants to know where I got my copy from, call my mom and dad, ask nicely, and they may remember me talking about it.

[Hink]

....xander you know I like you, but it is possible for someone to be legit user and prefer K-v-R over looptalk.....if you know what I mean?...

[xander]

Yeah, I jumped the gun Hink. I did so rather cavalierly rather than thinking about it enough, so I apologise to audiobot202. Now that I go back and read it all, I was out of line.

The first thing I flashed on were his first comments in the thread, which I thought were suspiciously defensive, and I just saw red from then on.

He certainly is in the right and he proved my suspicions wrong -- I just hope he can understand where I was coming from.

It's too bad that this thread had to turn into the shitfight it became. Indeed, the midi info was good.

Cheers & Let's make music!
Alex

[sparlecki]

[Hink]

Yeah, I jumped the gun Hink. I did so rather cavalierly rather than thinking about it enough, so I apologise to audiobot202. Now that I go back and read it all, I was out of line.

The first thing I flashed on were his first comments in the thread, which I thought were suspiciously defensive, and I just saw red from then on.

He certainly is in the right and he proved my suspicions wrong -- I just hope he can understand where I was coming from.

It's too bad that this thread had to turn into the shitfight it became. Indeed, the midi info was good.

Cheers & Let's make music!
Alex

I've done it too... and I know you're a good guy...

[audiobot202]

Yeah, I jumped the gun Hink. I did so rather cavalierly rather than thinking about it enough, so I apologise to audiobot202. Now that I go back and read it all, I was out of line.

The first thing I flashed on were his first comments in the thread, which I thought were suspiciously defensive, and I just saw red from then on.

He certainly is in the right and he proved my suspicions wrong -- I just hope he can understand where I was coming from.

It's too bad that this thread had to turn into the shitfight it became. Indeed, the midi info was good.

Cheers & Let's make music!
Alex

No worries Xander. It's all good. I know that sometimes on forums people can get the wrong idea or misinterpret. I know piracy is a big issue and since you're a developer it means a lot more to you. I can understand where you're coming from and how my OP might have seemed suspicious to you.
So, don't worry about it I overreact sometimes too. We can all do it.
But yeah, the MIDI info was really useful for me. Now I know how it can be done it makes more sense. FL just becomes more useful to me as a way to generate longer chord progressions easily and quickly. That's all I need it for right now.

[audiobot202]

Oh and I would have offered help if I could...still learning the fruity ropes (everything vst related, actually) myself, and have been wondering about MIDI. That said, if anyone wants to know where I got my copy from, call my mom and dad, ask nicely, and they may remember me talking about it.

Heh, no problemo. Funnily enough, I reckon I originally purchased my copy of FL about 5 years ago on my parents credit card Paid them back of course, or I'd never hear the end of it !
"you want money for what? A piece of music software??"