AmpliTube Metal - Released THIS month!!!

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By the way, I have been to the Ferrari factory! It's really cool. Also, right down the street from IK in Italy is Maserati. So, if anyone wants to talk about high prices... This is nothing!

Sweet. Is that part the IK grand tour?
I've only seen Ferrari's test track on Google Earth.

[Amberience]

Hmmm.. Well, funking around with the demos of AT2 and Jimi Hendrix edition (comparing with RevalverMKII) and I think I'm having a change of heart on this whole stomp issue. I think perhaps it could be one of the greatest things available to guitarists. I mean, if I could do this LIVE on stage...

http://www.box.net/shared/jlsarfebf8 (updated this from the original post!)

... then I would be a very happy chap, I used Jimi Hendrix edition for the above amp tones, and for the delay on the lead I used the echoman model in AT2. I was thinking, lets say you're like me and you don't have Amplitube 2. Well, for £590, you're getting a floorboard to use with:

• 14 Preamp and 14 EQ models
• 7 Power-Amp models
• 16 Cabinet models
• 6 Microphone models
• 21 Stomp Effect models
• 11 Rack Effect models
• High-precision Tuner
• 2 Guitar rig chains

That isn't so bad y'know. I mean, I made the comparison that you could buy a tube amp for £590, and yes, you could. But you'd have one amp sound, and one cabinet sound. You'd have no microphone sounds with that, you'd have no effects with that (unless some are built into the amp, but amp effects are rarely any good I think) and you'd also have no rack effects.

I'm quite attracted to the idea of having Stomp I/O, AT2 and ATJHE, X-gear along with these (so I can use the amps from JH edition and the effects from AT2), a powerful laptop to run these on, and an Atomic Amp for live. Now, the Atomic Amp isn't strictly necessary, because I'm not playing guitar live at the moment. But for when I do, it would be brilliant.

This package would cost me quite a bit to put together... but lets think about this for a second, because it seems a lot.

Stomp I/O inc. AT2: £590
Jimi Hendrix Edition: £120
Laptop (Lenovo N200 C2D): £460
Total: £1170

So, for £1170, you get a pretty decent portable rig. And thinking about it, guitarists spend that sort of cash on their guitars (Gibsons for example!) It really isn't that badly priced considering it is all you would need.

I dunno... I can't afford it, and I don't really know if I will ever be able to, but I'm coming round to the idea that it isn't that badly priced.

[Squids]

By the way, I have been to the Ferrari factory! It's really cool. Also, right down the street from IK in Italy is Maserati. So, if anyone wants to talk about high prices... This is nothing!

Sweet. Is that part the IK grand tour?
I've only seen Ferrari's test track on Google Earth.

Yeah the first or second time I went to Italy I got the tour. It's right around the corner! Modena is a really nice place. We also went to the main Balsamic Vinegar place and I got to taste 150yo Balsamic which is so sweet that they'll even put it over ice cream (like chocolate syrup). Also, the food there is just MOLTO MOLTO BENE! I go there every year for development meetings about SampleTank instruments and other stuff. In fact, I may be going over there soon to do a video on the GEAR that's modeled (also to take back some of the gear that I lent...shh). But I wanted to pull out the real stuff so people can see what the software is actually emulating. Can't take it for granted that not everyone realizes that Univibes, Fuzzfaces and Fuzzrites go for big bucks just for "that sound". I want to talk about it on vid because I think it will be educational (and fun).

[FrettedSynth]

yes that's RIGHT! AT $1,049. the costs were kept DOWN to be that LOW. I am totally serious. It's made in Italy, not China in droves. (China drove? Doobies? ).

Damn life is good... Doobie, Doobie, Doobie, Doobie, dooooooo

Now if this isn't the words of someone who is high then I don't know what is...



Also, I like to call my Continuum a Fretless Keyboard. That should fit right in there in the psyche.

Right on, right on, right on

Peace train soundin louder, High on the peace train (clap, clap clap)

Peace
Fretted Synth

[Squids]

yes that's RIGHT! AT $1,049. the costs were kept DOWN to be that LOW. I am totally serious. It's made in Italy, not China in droves. (China drove? Doobies? ).

Damn life is good... Doobie, Doobie, Doobie, Doobie, dooooooo

Now if this isn't the words of someone who is high then I don't know what is...



Also, I like to call my Continuum a Fretless Keyboard. That should fit right in there in the psyche.

Right on, right on, right on

Peace train soundin louder, High on the peace train (clap, clap clap)

Peace
Fretted Synth

Baked!

[redshift factor]

and redshift has implied agreement that he doesn't really consider himself a "guitarist," nor does he care either way.

I never implied that I don't consider myself a guitarist. I do however make a distinction because I am not a gigging guitarist, I am a studio musician. I have been playing guitar for over 15 years though. I just don't have a guitar-centric view. Plus I find playing bass to be more fun. And then there's the synths, drums, vocals, and production...

I just do what I have to to get my songs to sound the way I want. I'm not out to be a guitar hero. You're the one saying you don't think I'm a "true guitarist." I'm just saying I'm not especially concerned by what some insecure guitarist on an internet forum thinks.

[Cosmic Bandito]

[quote="Amberience"]Hmmm.. Well, funking around with the demos of AT2 and Jimi Hendrix edition (comparing with RevalverMKII) and I think I'm having a change of heart on this whole stomp issue. I think perhaps it could be one of the greatest things available to guitarists. I mean, if I could do this LIVE on stage...

http://www.box.net/shared/jlsarfebf8 (updated this from the original post!)
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I like your playing, similar to what I do too. I agree the AT2 fx sound great withb JHE amps. I just think that rhythm track is not convincing enough. If you did it with Revalver it would give you the bite & punch that's missing there. I just tried it today for the first time and it seems great for heavy riffing although the cleans are too bitey with my single coils.

As far as the stomp issue - that's a LOT of money to spend on something that's "not quite" there.

[Lunch Money]

I just do what I have to to get my songs to sound the way I want.

As do we all... almost every last one of us on this forum... dunno why you're trying to glorify it.

I'm not out to be a guitar hero. You're the one saying you don't think I'm a "true guitarist."

Nice revisionist history. You were the one who said that a "serious guitarist" spends money on equipment, ffs. And what I said had nothing at all -- NOTHING to do with your "prowess" or whether you gig or not (neither do I, and I'm no hero). It simply had everything to do with your snyde f**king one-word answer ("guitarists") which seemed to be setting up a "them, not me" dichotomy. So it was an observation (not an insult) that perhaps you're not a "true" guitarist... 'cause frankly, those were ignorant things to say. Jeeziz, man, you're putting up a virtual army of straw men, all of them dining on rations of red herrings. And instead of "manning up" that perhaps you were out of line, you'd rather defend yourself by getting mired down in some argument about what I meant by my "true guitarist" comment.

A simple, "sorry, it WAS a bit snarky" followed by a "btw, I AM a guitarist" (instead of the vague replies and delving into what I may have meant by it) and this whole thing would've been done. Sheesh.

I'm just saying I'm not especially concerned by what some insecure guitarist on an internet forum thinks.

Which was what *I* was trying to say to you and your "serious guitarists" comment. You didn't seem to be making comments from the perspective of a guitarist. And you're the one who took it as an insult in the first place... which is the sure sign of insecurity. I haven't the faintest clue how me pointing out that your comments seemed elitist and snarky (and they were) turned into ME insulting YOU (when it was initially the other way around), as well as me having 'judged' you as a guitarist, when it was YOU making the "serious guitarists" comment. All the while, exhibiting my "insecurity" (wherever that came from)

How the hell do things get so twisted around here?

[jinxtigr]

Guitarists

[hibidy]

wow, this is confusing now.........

so where are we anyways?

For those who have AT2, we get the xgear thing for free

ATmetal is probably going to be cooler than some maybe thought? yes?

Stomp i/o is out of everyones price range............but IF we had the money we'd want it?

So how far off am I, or have I not caught up enough?

[stag]

The fellas that first bought AT2, 310€, with the purpose of buying stomp I\O when it was released, are graciously presented with something else on the side (Metal something, one more to the upgrade path ), whenever they like it or not.
That's a new definition of be cool.

Please don't tell me X-Gear's for free. That functionality should have been there from day one.

[Amberience]

I like your playing, similar to what I do too. I agree the AT2 fx sound great withb JHE amps. I just think that rhythm track is not convincing enough. If you did it with Revalver it would give you the bite & punch that's missing there. I just tried it today for the first time and it seems great for heavy riffing although the cleans are too bitey with my single coils.

As far as the stomp issue - that's a LOT of money to spend on something that's "not quite" there.

Hmm... I'm not sure what you mean by "convincing" ... guaranteed if I had uploaded that same piece into a thread about tube amps, people would be going "wow! That tone is excellent, now I need a tube amp!" hehe.

Point being, if you already have a disposition against Amplitube, then you're going to go with that regardless of how my clip sounded. I personally think the rhythm track sounds great.

I own RevalverMKII, and I think that is great too. I suppose later on I could remove amplitube and swap them for instances of Revalver and try and get a kick ass sound and then upload that, and people could compare. But I don't think it is a worthy comparison anyway.

[beergeek]

wow, this is confusing now.........

so where are we anyways?

For those who have AT2, we get the xgear thing for free

ATmetal is probably going to be cooler than some maybe thought? yes?

Stomp i/o is out of everyones price range............but IF we had the money we'd want it?

So how far off am I, or have I not caught up enough?

Yes, YOU get X-Gear fer nuttin...

I dunno about AT Metal but I don't play no metal Just Acid Rock... you KNOW how I feels about ATJHE

StompIO is way too much for me but only cuz I don't play live hardly at all any more. If'n I played live, I think it might be worth it but I've got my RP350 for live and it's decent though not what I can get from ATJHE.

You're in NeverNeverLand but you knew that

[Cosmic Bandito]

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Hmm... I'm not sure what you mean by "convincing" ... guaranteed if I had uploaded that same piece into a thread about tube amps, people would be going "wow! That tone is excellent, now I need a tube amp!" hehe.[/quote]

All I meant was the power chords were missing some punch (especially the attack). It's not something that hasn't been discussed before about amp sims to death. A recent thread about Revalver had some excellent "Metal" clips, probably the most convincing I've heard for that genre. Your lead was sound was spot on and I coundn't tell if that was tube amp or whatever - just really good. I'm not gonna lie and say those power chords grooved though like Soundgarden or Alice in Chains (your track reminded me of the Temple of The Dog Album with Chris Cornell BTW). Even if it's just for a split second in the attack - that's what people groove to with that music and I don't think they will be fooled either!

[stag]

Convincing attack, mostly on palm muted passages, is what separates AmpSims from Simulanalog Guitar Suite.