I was sent mine.dblock wrote:Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:dblock wrote:I have AT2 and Svx (not to mention almost everything else). Went to the site and didn't see any $149 price anywhere under preorder.saturninus wrote:I got to
The upgrade would be $199, or if preordered $149...
Amplitube 3 - screenshot (from NAMM)
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
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- KVRist
- 360 posts since 27 Mar, 2008
I haven't received a coupon but I may not qualify. I bought mine using educational discounts. Th
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- KVRer
- 28 posts since 24 Sep, 2009
I haven't received a coupon code either but I think the only item I bought outright was Amplitube JH. The other's were either free (tracks singles, CSR, amplitube 2)or crossgrades (svx). I've got 43 in jam points so I'm only 7 off of the 150 deal and I think most of my jam points are about to expire in april/may anyway.
"What we play is life" - Louis Armstrong
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- KVRist
- 98 posts since 1 Sep, 2005
Nah..your just being a bit fanatical and thats ok but you just dont seem to understand the market and the movement of technology. No one is screaming for 64bit. I dont know a single M.E. thats even brought it up to me. When the chatter starts getting much bigger, software starts getting more powerful, and it become a real need, we will switch over. But that is years away. Your simply overselling its importance to the mass industry...it may be important to you but sorry...its just not that important in the scheme of things.hibidy wrote:@64: (and this is not targeted at IK, though a rant nonetheless)
I grow weary of the arguments against x64. Imnsho, x64 should be the norm everyone is trying for. If someone doesn't understand why, I'll explain it.
-The ram access is where it's at
-Can you say, compatibility with what hosts which ARE going x64?
-Even plugs like amplitube use ram, ram has become the enemy!
-Nearly every PC comes with windows 7 x64
-bit bridges are mostly dogs. And you'll still get allot of complaints about it not being compatible with the bit bridge, thus either pointing the finger at some other source (which always ticks people off) or having to do trouble shooting to fix the issue using time and money!
So compatibility and integration don't seem to be an issue for the nay-sayers. It most certainly is for us!
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
REAlly? Well we can agree to disagree I guessjohnrrrrrr wrote:Nah..your just being a bit fanatical and thats ok but you just dont seem to understand the market and the movement of technology. No one is screaming for 64bit. I dont know a single M.E. thats even brought it up to me. When the chatter starts getting much bigger, software starts getting more powerful, and it become a real need, we will switch over. But that is years away. Your simply overselling its importance to the mass industry...it may be important to you but sorry...its just not that important in the scheme of things.hibidy wrote:@64: (and this is not targeted at IK, though a rant nonetheless)
I grow weary of the arguments against x64. Imnsho, x64 should be the norm everyone is trying for. If someone doesn't understand why, I'll explain it.
-The ram access is where it's at
-Can you say, compatibility with what hosts which ARE going x64?
-Even plugs like amplitube use ram, ram has become the enemy!
-Nearly every PC comes with windows 7 x64
-bit bridges are mostly dogs. And you'll still get allot of complaints about it not being compatible with the bit bridge, thus either pointing the finger at some other source (which always ticks people off) or having to do trouble shooting to fix the issue using time and money!
So compatibility and integration don't seem to be an issue for the nay-sayers. It most certainly is for us!
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- KVRist
- 38 posts since 26 Apr, 2009 from London
Many thanks for your reply Peter, I have always been impressed by IK software and your customer service is second to none and many of my posts over the years have said so especially on Cubase forum.
Though on this one issue there is no information available for customers, so it is good to know that it is not been ignored, as previously there has been no way to tell. I would like to just add a few points.
Cubase is now in it's second generation as a 64 bit host and it's internal bridge has never lived up to expectations. Without Jbridge I would not be able to use any IK software on 64bit Cubase. When there have been problems I contact the developer and within a very short period changes are made and it all works again, Just recently X-gear would not run with version 1.18 and using optimised mode just locked Cubase up, within 24hrs I had 1.18b which resolved the problem and I am waiting for a more finished version to test for the developer. I hope Ik are in contact with him, because without him there would be much more flak coming your way on this issue.
From my perspective I have already Upgraded to T-racks 3, and assume that after Amplitube 3 there will be Sampletank 3, do you have any idea whether that will be 64 bit native ? It all costs $£$£$ and the improvement I am after is not there. will I in the future have to spend more $£$£$ to get this or will it be free update ?
It seems that waiting for all flavours of Daw to become 64 bit when other developers are and have been for some time releasing 64 bit native plugins could be seen as little short sighted, let me have a go as to explaining why,
If my favorite plugin was for example Emulator X3 which comes as a 64 bit native version and then I was in the market for a Guitar amp sim to run along side it would I go for a bridged 32 bit one or a native 64 bit one, to me the answear would be the 64 bit one, all other things been equal.
I agree that Ram is the most obvious advantage and running out of it on XP with Emulator X2 put me on the 64bit path, but it is not just the Ram, the whole processing system is more efficient. Better ASIO usage and more headroom.
I am quite sure that when you do release Native 64 bit plugins it will be (quit rightfully) used as a major selling point and mentioned in the marketing blurb. My fear is still that will not happen until the 4 series of updates sometime in the distant future.
I really hope the wait is not to long and yet again thank you for your reply.
I find arguments against early adopters of technology strange, somebodies got to do it, I would not expect Studios to run 64 bit on anything other than a test bed, though if developers of the plugins get in gear the day when we can actually use the advantages of true 64 bit systems would be one step nearer. If you go to Cubase forum and look at VST bridge "shame on Steinberg" post, it is surprising how many are actually using 64 bit cubase even with it's bridge (They have a lot to thank Jbridge's developer for as well). Though as always there are those that say no, the vast majority want Vst Bridge fixed which points to people using Cubase 64, normally alongside the 32bit version and waiting for native 64 bit plugs
Though on this one issue there is no information available for customers, so it is good to know that it is not been ignored, as previously there has been no way to tell. I would like to just add a few points.
Cubase is now in it's second generation as a 64 bit host and it's internal bridge has never lived up to expectations. Without Jbridge I would not be able to use any IK software on 64bit Cubase. When there have been problems I contact the developer and within a very short period changes are made and it all works again, Just recently X-gear would not run with version 1.18 and using optimised mode just locked Cubase up, within 24hrs I had 1.18b which resolved the problem and I am waiting for a more finished version to test for the developer. I hope Ik are in contact with him, because without him there would be much more flak coming your way on this issue.
From my perspective I have already Upgraded to T-racks 3, and assume that after Amplitube 3 there will be Sampletank 3, do you have any idea whether that will be 64 bit native ? It all costs $£$£$ and the improvement I am after is not there. will I in the future have to spend more $£$£$ to get this or will it be free update ?
It seems that waiting for all flavours of Daw to become 64 bit when other developers are and have been for some time releasing 64 bit native plugins could be seen as little short sighted, let me have a go as to explaining why,
If my favorite plugin was for example Emulator X3 which comes as a 64 bit native version and then I was in the market for a Guitar amp sim to run along side it would I go for a bridged 32 bit one or a native 64 bit one, to me the answear would be the 64 bit one, all other things been equal.
I agree that Ram is the most obvious advantage and running out of it on XP with Emulator X2 put me on the 64bit path, but it is not just the Ram, the whole processing system is more efficient. Better ASIO usage and more headroom.
I am quite sure that when you do release Native 64 bit plugins it will be (quit rightfully) used as a major selling point and mentioned in the marketing blurb. My fear is still that will not happen until the 4 series of updates sometime in the distant future.
I really hope the wait is not to long and yet again thank you for your reply.
I find arguments against early adopters of technology strange, somebodies got to do it, I would not expect Studios to run 64 bit on anything other than a test bed, though if developers of the plugins get in gear the day when we can actually use the advantages of true 64 bit systems would be one step nearer. If you go to Cubase forum and look at VST bridge "shame on Steinberg" post, it is surprising how many are actually using 64 bit cubase even with it's bridge (They have a lot to thank Jbridge's developer for as well). Though as always there are those that say no, the vast majority want Vst Bridge fixed which points to people using Cubase 64, normally alongside the 32bit version and waiting for native 64 bit plugs
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- KVRAF
- 10366 posts since 2 Sep, 2003 from Surrey, UK
I must have missed this - but what exactly are the qualifying criteria for receiving the $50 coupon?
(Dropping the pre-order upgrade price to $149, and I understand that no all emails have yet been sent)
(Dropping the pre-order upgrade price to $149, and I understand that no all emails have yet been sent)
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redshift factor redshift factor https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=54214
- KVRian
- 1118 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
I'm screaming for 64bit.johnrrrrrr wrote:Nah..your just being a bit fanatical and thats ok but you just dont seem to understand the market and the movement of technology. No one is screaming for 64bit. I dont know a single M.E. thats even brought it up to me. When the chatter starts getting much bigger, software starts getting more powerful, and it become a real need, we will switch over. But that is years away. Your simply overselling its importance to the mass industry...it may be important to you but sorry...its just not that important in the scheme of things.hibidy wrote:@64: (and this is not targeted at IK, though a rant nonetheless)
I grow weary of the arguments against x64. Imnsho, x64 should be the norm everyone is trying for. If someone doesn't understand why, I'll explain it.
-The ram access is where it's at
-Can you say, compatibility with what hosts which ARE going x64?
-Even plugs like amplitube use ram, ram has become the enemy!
-Nearly every PC comes with windows 7 x64
-bit bridges are mostly dogs. And you'll still get allot of complaints about it not being compatible with the bit bridge, thus either pointing the finger at some other source (which always ticks people off) or having to do trouble shooting to fix the issue using time and money!
So compatibility and integration don't seem to be an issue for the nay-sayers. It most certainly is for us!
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- Banned
- 396 posts since 21 Feb, 2004 from Stockholm, Sweden
If you are qualified you will get the promo-code in the mail. I got it. I hope it will not be too late to pre-order it in the first couple of days of february since I dont get any money until then.DarkStar wrote:I must have missed this - but what exactly are the qualifying criteria for receiving the $50 coupon?
(Dropping the pre-order upgrade price to $149, and I understand that no all emails have yet been sent)
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- Banned
- 396 posts since 21 Feb, 2004 from Stockholm, Sweden
And I'm screaming for a lovbite. Much more important than 64-bit.redshift factor wrote:I'm screaming for 64bit.johnrrrrrr wrote:Nah..your just being a bit fanatical and thats ok but you just dont seem to understand the market and the movement of technology. No one is screaming for 64bit. I dont know a single M.E. thats even brought it up to me. When the chatter starts getting much bigger, software starts getting more powerful, and it become a real need, we will switch over. But that is years away. Your simply overselling its importance to the mass industry...it may be important to you but sorry...its just not that important in the scheme of things.hibidy wrote:@64: (and this is not targeted at IK, though a rant nonetheless)
I grow weary of the arguments against x64. Imnsho, x64 should be the norm everyone is trying for. If someone doesn't understand why, I'll explain it.
-The ram access is where it's at
-Can you say, compatibility with what hosts which ARE going x64?
-Even plugs like amplitube use ram, ram has become the enemy!
-Nearly every PC comes with windows 7 x64
-bit bridges are mostly dogs. And you'll still get allot of complaints about it not being compatible with the bit bridge, thus either pointing the finger at some other source (which always ticks people off) or having to do trouble shooting to fix the issue using time and money!
So compatibility and integration don't seem to be an issue for the nay-sayers. It most certainly is for us!
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- 8149 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
If you bought a powered by AmpliTube product, you can upgrade. I can PM you more information if you'd like, it seems to further confuse things in here when I try to clarifyDarkStar wrote:I must have missed this - but what exactly are the qualifying criteria for receiving the $50 coupon?
(Dropping the pre-order upgrade price to $149, and I understand that no all emails have yet been sent)
Edit - dubbelQ, the $50 coupon DarkStar mentions is good through February.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Yeah I'm trying not be rude, but this post made absolutely no sense.redshift factor wrote:I'm screaming for 64bit.johnrrrrrr wrote:Nah..your just being a bit fanatical and thats ok but you just dont seem to understand the market and the movement of technology. No one is screaming for 64bit. I dont know a single M.E. thats even brought it up to me. When the chatter starts getting much bigger, software starts getting more powerful, and it become a real need, we will switch over. But that is years away. Your simply overselling its importance to the mass industry...it may be important to you but sorry...its just not that important in the scheme of things.hibidy wrote:@64: (and this is not targeted at IK, though a rant nonetheless)
I grow weary of the arguments against x64. Imnsho, x64 should be the norm everyone is trying for. If someone doesn't understand why, I'll explain it.
-The ram access is where it's at
-Can you say, compatibility with what hosts which ARE going x64?
-Even plugs like amplitube use ram, ram has become the enemy!
-Nearly every PC comes with windows 7 x64
-bit bridges are mostly dogs. And you'll still get allot of complaints about it not being compatible with the bit bridge, thus either pointing the finger at some other source (which always ticks people off) or having to do trouble shooting to fix the issue using time and money!
So compatibility and integration don't seem to be an issue for the nay-sayers. It most certainly is for us!
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- 8149 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
@Oscat01 - Funny that you mention it directly. as we are definitely following the Cubase bridge saga closely. It was mentioned to me when I asked about 64-bit here.
We're not really arguing against early adopters, but balancing market demands with features that are more utilitarian and smaller market share (based on not just the DAW situation) is a fine line. That's part of the reason we're lucky in one way that the effects plugins are not as affected, and though there's no official line until the dust cloud starts to settle a bit more, we have our eyes on SampleTank 3 as a big contender for the 64-bit native mantle.
We should have more information available about 64-bit compatibility and bridging and such in the near future too.
We're not really arguing against early adopters, but balancing market demands with features that are more utilitarian and smaller market share (based on not just the DAW situation) is a fine line. That's part of the reason we're lucky in one way that the effects plugins are not as affected, and though there's no official line until the dust cloud starts to settle a bit more, we have our eyes on SampleTank 3 as a big contender for the 64-bit native mantle.
We should have more information available about 64-bit compatibility and bridging and such in the near future too.
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- KVRAF
- 42529 posts since 21 Dec, 2005
Well to be clear, my rants are not directed at IK. There seems to be "resistance" to it from a larger sect than I'd expect. I have no doubt IK will go x64.Peter - IK Multimedia wrote:@Oscat01 - Funny that you mention it directly. as we are definitely following the Cubase bridge saga closely. It was mentioned to me when I asked about 64-bit here.
We're not really arguing against early adopters, but balancing market demands with features that are more utilitarian and smaller market share (based on not just the DAW situation) is a fine line. That's part of the reason we're lucky in one way that the effects plugins are not as affected, and though there's no official line until the dust cloud starts to settle a bit more, we have our eyes on SampleTank 3 as a big contender for the 64-bit native mantle.
We should have more information available about 64-bit compatibility and bridging and such in the near future too.
I've heard some companies will not support jbride'd plugs blaming the wrapper for any compatibility issues. In this case the consumer is in a no win situation. Hopefully, that isn't the case here.
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Peter - IK Multimedia Peter - IK Multimedia https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=217907
- KVRAF
- 8149 posts since 20 Oct, 2009
Oh I know, hibidy. You even qualified your post, and that was appreciated
I don't take it personally. I'm just trying to make sure I'm not misleading anybody and overpromising. Trying not to underpromise is hard too. It is something we're not ignoring, and I know there are more and more people using 64-bit systems and DAWs each day.
We'd surely rather not rely on others (for bridging, as the main example) for a long time as that's also a burden to us too. Burdens cost money, development costs money, it will all come out right in the end and in due time. Especially if people preorder the heck out of AmpliTube 3
Now we're back on track!!!
We'd surely rather not rely on others (for bridging, as the main example) for a long time as that's also a burden to us too. Burdens cost money, development costs money, it will all come out right in the end and in due time. Especially if people preorder the heck out of AmpliTube 3
