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guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Mon Jul 26, 2010 9:26 pm

Uncle E wrote:
or maybe a Tech21 US Steel
It's another good one, though very different from the Wampler in that it excels at lower gain tones. I like Tech 21's Double Drive 3x better for the heavier stuff.

Uncle E, I like the Tonebone Classic for roughly tweed-like tones - what is your favorite? How about for AC30 top boost tones?

I see you like the Zendrive and Zendrive 2 for Dumble-like tone...I remember you also said the Tech 21 British character pedal reminded you of a Dumble in a thread a month or so back - which does the overall best job? Seems like your saying the Zendrive 2, while not THE most Dumble-like, is your favorite?

How about soft clipping blackface-like OD? ....hmmm...maybe you could just list all of your favorite pedals??

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:12 am

guitarzan wrote:Uncle E, I like the Tonebone Classic for roughly tweed-like tones - what is your favorite?

The Gainster has a very good tweed feel and is the best I've tried for that sort of sound. I'd love to try the Lovepedal Les Lius:

http://lovepedal.com/pedals/les_lius.html

How about for AC30 top boost tones?

hmm, that's tough. The Cranked AC is my favorite Wampler pedal but not really for what I personally love about AC30's, namely that compressed yet super sparkly edge-of-breakup tone. Maybe a Janglebox in front of an LTD?

I see you like the Zendrive and Zendrive 2 for Dumble-like tone...I remember you also said the Tech 21 British character pedal reminded you of a Dumble in a thread a month or so back - which does the overall best job? Seems like your saying the Zendrive 2, while not THE most Dumble-like, is your favorite?

The Zendrive and British both excel at that clean distorted Dumble sound but they both feel stiff, whereas the Zendrive 2 responds like an amp. Also, the British pedal really only sounds great DI'd, unlike the newer Character pedals that can defeat the speaker simulation.

How about soft clipping blackface-like OD?

I haven't found anything good for that yet but that Les Lius might be cool. tbh, I always dial that sound out of my amps so I'm never looking for a pedal to do it.

....hmmm...maybe you could just list all of your favorite pedals??

At the moment, I'd have to say the Zendrive 2, the Keeley BD-2, the Fulltone GT-500, and my modded TS-9DX. The list will be different next week.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:08 pm

The list is always different for me also, susiwong too (its Klon Centaur and Zendrive atm but will change), i tell you what is/has been a good buy and meant i could retire to home/studio use 4 (5 if you count a keeley modded TS) Maxon/Ibanez TS/OD 9 and TS/OD 808 is Digitech's Hardwire-Series CM-2 Tube Overdrive and its cheaper than any of the above but still recording i would use the 'real' one of choice but for abuse and heavy duty live work that Digitech unit is great and comes so close that im not noticing the difference at rehersal/live volumes = win

edit: thanks for the info on the range Eric, all appreciated: i didn't know you sold stuff until susiwong mentioned it a few months ago and of course when you offered talking shipping on a few amps i mentioned. Still i know that first and foremost your a tone hound like us 'lifer's' so your opinion is not biased by stuff you sell - its personal

(FWIW)

Dean

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:19 pm

IMHO the only thing that can can make a classic 7ender sound decent driven is Analogman's King Of Tone pedal - good luck on the waiting list though

YMMV of course and the new 'Dumble OD Special' pedal for me atm is providence's Stampede OD II

but pricey

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:25 pm

Locally world-famous bassist Bony Jank will be dropping by later with a guitar and a bass selected from his collection, so we can test the inputs on my system with something besides mics and synths. He's been trying to convince me to borrow some instruments for a long time, and I've resisted due to the possibility I might screw one up. Maybe he'll leave one or both when he leaves. We'll see.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:30 pm

Have at it Meffy, Skunk em man \m/ and rawk out dude \m/

Meffy · Post by **Meffy** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:37 pm

Well, except I'm neither a "real" guitarist nor a bassist, and have rather arthritic paws with non-retractable claws instead of proper long-fingered hands. (Yes, the claws destroy keytops quickly too.) Probably best if he doesn't leave an instrument... but if he does at least I can try out my various amp sims on actual guitar and bass sounds. Practice a little, maybe. Rocking out I won't be able to do again, not in a million years. Them's the breaks.

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:51 pm

have fun anyways man and all the best Meff

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:10 pm

Uncle E wrote:
How about soft clipping blackface-like OD?
I haven't found anything good for that yet but that Les Lius might be cool. tbh, I always dial that sound out of my amps so I'm never looking for a pedal to do it.

Yeah, me too - I've just been thinking of going with all pedals into the computer and then using VSTs for compression, speaker IRs, and ambiance.

I do have one "pedal" that does bf Fender exeedingly well - it's from MTI and I think the pedal was just called "Tubes" or something like that (it just says mti on the back) - but it is huge for a pedal, and it contains an entire small tube amp ... power tube, fairly big transformers, load and all. Not very handy for a pedalboard though! Plus it really only sounds good to a point on it's own (cleanish to just-before-breakup) - have to be careful with the volume, etc. It really comes to life with other distortion/fuzz in front - or a nice compressor!!

Thanks for the pedal info!

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:31 pm

guitarzan wrote:I've just been thinking of going with all pedals into the computer and then using VSTs for compression, speaker IRs, and ambiance.

I do have one "pedal" that does bf Fender exeedingly well - it's from MTI and I think the pedal was just called "Tubes" or something like that (it just says mti on the back) - but it is huge for a pedal, and it contains an entire small tube amp ... power tube, fairly big transformers, load and all. Not very handy for a pedalboard though! Plus it really only sounds good to a point on it's own (cleanish to just-before-breakup) - have to be careful with the volume, etc. It really comes to life with other distortion/fuzz in front - or a nice compressor!!

That's for the heads up on the MTI, it sounds like a handy studio device! The British into that, followed by some Recabinet impulses, ought to sound amazing. I like the British pedal with the character knob turned up and the drive turned down but there are also some good gainy settings in the manual. btw, in addition to compression from plug-ins, you might want to try a compressor pedal before the MTI and any other pedals since that's a significantly different kind of sound and feel.

guitarzan · Post by **guitarzan** » Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:27 pm

Uncle E wrote:...The British into that, followed by some Recabinet impulses, ought to sound amazing...

I'd like to try that soon! In fact, when I think about how I'd like my DI pedalboard to work I pretty much think of maybe three of those character pedals serving as my "amp" channels. Have you tried the Blonde and Liverpool character pedals, etc?

Ian B · Post by **Ian B** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:41 pm

My next guitar............will not be this one

http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1960-GIBSON ... 2a089948c9

susiwong · Post by **susiwong** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:24 pm

Ian B wrote:My next guitar............will not be this one http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1960-GIBSON ... 2a089948c9

Yeah, a Gibson tends to hold its value pretty well.

Exceptionally clean example ...

Cheers,
susiwong

Dean Aka Nekro · Post by **Dean Aka Nekro** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:37 pm

guitarzan wrote:
Uncle E wrote:
How about soft clipping blackface-like OD?
I haven't found anything good for that yet but that Les Lius might be cool. tbh, I always dial that sound out of my amps so I'm never looking for a pedal to do it.
Yeah, me too - I've just been thinking of going with all pedals into the computer and then using VSTs for compression, speaker IRs, and ambiance.

Its a good route to go IMHO guitarzan, it works well not just with pedals acting as pre-amps but also if any of your amp heads and/or combos have an FX Loop man or in some cases a dedicated pre-amp output. I personally always use 'real' pedals before going into a DI box/line-in as its for me the weakest area of all the virtual stuff and well its been working for me for years along with ReValver Mk II (just the poweramp & IR Cab modules used), BoogieX and also AmpegSVX (this one for my needs works best with a clean amp sound and a high-gain distortion pedal going into it and since i use a 1x15" in my real setup the Ampeg 1x15 with the tweater/HF knob turned down to turn the cabinets less 'Hi-Fi' is great), got Recabinet 2 myself just a few weeks ago since they were selling it for peanuts! $13 IIRC (only problem being my audio pc/dedicated D.A.W is down and out

so i have not had good time to try Recabinet 2 IR's out yet = its just my luck, you know?

). Still to be honest i mic up for anything past scratch tracks/throwing down ideas/demos but its getting better and better and have succesfully used virtual amp plug-Ins engineering other peoples tracks.

Thats just me though and i do believe in having the best of both worlds when it comes to audio full stop

Dean

Ian B · Post by **Ian B** » Wed Jul 28, 2010 5:42 pm

susiwong wrote:
Ian B wrote:My next guitar............will not be this one http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-1960-GIBSON ... 2a089948c9
Yeah, a Gibson tends to hold its value pretty well.
Exceptionally clean example ...
Cheers,
susiwong

What's the betting it's soulless and plays awfully tho'?

Your next guitar?