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BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 7:33 pm

Another request

When we drag/drop from the chord generator, we get one note by beat.

For the creation of pads, could we have the ability to get one note by bar?

The solution: simply by a Ctrl-DragDrop (or Alt-DragDrop, as you want) for the "by bar" in complement of the actual method of a single DragDrop for the "by beat".

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 8:23 pm

Hi BlackWinny,
if i understand your Q. correctly
you can do this easily if you set up Division to Bar..
but this is works if you work only with block chords
i am attaching an example project
track 1 chord generator Division is "Bar"
track 2 chord generator Division is "Beat" but track 2 also has "Join Notes" Variations
and i prefer to use this method because more flexible ..for example if you want to change chord length ( shorten or expand 1/4 in this case) track 2 adopt it self automatically.
i hope it helps.

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:31 pm

Gosh!

I had missed that!

Yes, image below to clarify...

But... there is something that I haven't understood in your answer. This:

track 1 chord generator Division is "Bar"
track 2 chord generator Division is "Beat"

There are attributes that can be applied to the chord generator regarding the work one wishes to do? I feel very beginner suddenly...

Or is it because when you did the drag-drop you were in "snap mode" Bar for the first and in "snap mode" Beat for the second... indifferently meaning that in fact the result can be the same in such situation whatever the choice the most important being that "Join notes" is ticked?

But... hum... How do I do if at a precise point I want to really have two identical notes in succession? (an eighth followed by a half for example to emphasize an phrase like we can see quite often in the sheets of Erik Satie, if I remember...)

tonedef71 · Post by **tonedef71** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:18 pm

BlackWinny wrote:In the Note Editor a little function seems to be missing.

Actually, when one wants to join to successive identical notes it is simple : just double-click on the first note, that's all.

But I haven't found the method to merge several notes in one step.

An easy way like in the menu of a selection of several identical notes... simply to be able to join them from the first of the selection to the last of the selection. Do one by one can be a bit fastidious when the sheet is long or complex and has many occurrences like this. Could it be possible?

Example of solution: join in only one step the notes selected here in dark by a menu like this one:

A nice little time-saving enhancement -- I like it. I can see myself using it in the Phrase Editor.

Your idea makes me think of another related suggestion, although I think it may only be implementable on monophonic material. How about when a user selects a contiguous block of notes that are not identical: it might be useful to merge all the notes together as one note for the entire highlighted duration; that one long note could either be the first or the last note in the highlighted selection.

yellukhan · Post by **yellukhan** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:58 pm

Hi BlackWinn,
i meant
Division in the phrase inspector

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BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 10:59 pm

tonedef71 wrote:on monophonic material [ - - - ] contiguous block of notes that are not identical: it might be useful to merge all the notes together as one note for the entire highlighted duration; that one long note could either be the first or the last note in the highlighted selection.

Hmmm... I have some difficulties to make a mental visualization of that, starting from a first view to end in a final view.

If the contiguous notes are not identical... merge them in such a process as you describe would lead to have them identical (same pitch) at the end of the process, no?

Please Tony, could you make a quick little draw in a picture editor showing the starting situation and the ending situation?

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Wed Mar 19, 2014 11:48 pm

yellukhan wrote:Hi BlackWinny,
i meant
Division in the phrase inspector

AutoSustain.gif

tonedef71 · Post by **tonedef71** » Thu Mar 20, 2014 3:27 am

BlackWinny wrote:If the contiguous notes are not identical... merge them in such a process as you describe would lead to have them identical (same pitch) at the end of the process, no?

You are correct. That is exactly the outcome I was suggesting. It is for the use case when you have a passage of notes and you decide you just want to hear a single note held for the same duration. Sometimes when I am working with a bass line, I might want to hear a pedal point where I currently have, for example, an ostinato. The held note I want to hear is usually the very first or the very last note in that selected passage of notes.

I am able to get by without this feature easy enough: I currently delete the highlighted passage and redraw the single note for the duration previously occupied by the highlighted passage; it might actually be fewer steps to do it the original way, but automating the creation of the held note could be faster/less-tedious than dragging the single held note out for the whole duration.

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:50 pm

Hello Attila

I think that by exception it should be better to not have any close button for these three submenus:

BlackWinny · Post by **BlackWinny** » Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:53 pm

Because in all the cases offered by these three submenus, the action is systematically followed by a necessity to close it, without any exception (even if they have been opened by mistake).

lulukom · Post by **lulukom** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 1:30 pm

Hi, Attila!
I once wrote that very much like to have the command:
"split track into phrases, respectively chords master track"
that it could be done with a single command (and shortcut too).
Whether it is possible to wait?
By the way, a very big thank you for batch converter midi files, which works very well!

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:16 pm

Hi lulukom,

will you please explain what this command should do? E.g. when you imported a long MIDI file, do you mean creating shorter phrases, like 1 bar? Or selecting a track and doing a 'split' at every bar?
I am happy to hear that the batch converter works well, thanks!

Attila

lulukom · Post by **lulukom** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 2:36 pm

Attila!
I mean not import midi files, and the separation of the selected track (it would be good with a choice of the timeline, then there is the possibility select a portion of track) on the areas, which will be equal to the length of the chord in the master track! Oh ... not too hard to write that?))))

musicdevelopments · Post by **musicdevelopments** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:45 pm

I see! I will add 'Split Phrases On Chord Boundaries' in the next beta! Good idea, thanks, lulukom!

lulukom · Post by **lulukom** » Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:00 pm

Excellent! I see that the program is getting better and very fast! Thank you!

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